AMF and DI: confusing resuts explained, with a suggestion (in General)


ottar January 14 2005 1:35 AM EST

I have a two-minion char Varangian Guards, organized thus:

1. AMF + AS
2. archer/tank w/ ToJ

In my post-battle summary, my DI column often shows two numbers separated by a slash. I figured out pretty quickly that:

0/547

meant that that minion inflicted no damage in the usual way, but was somehow responsible for 547 points of AMF damage.

The confusion sets in when I see that my ToJ familiar sometimes does AMF damage, and very occasionally, so does my tank.

After some investigation, I found that this happens after the AMF caster dies: the AMF damage is going to wind up in SOMEBODY's DI column, and it seems to go to the next living minion. When that minion dies, it starts showing up in the next minion's entry.

I propose that it would be best to keep the AMF and GA damage represented there with the casting minion. In the event that there is more than one casting minion, it should be pro-rated according to the casting levels of the minions involved. This would enable players to see what the impact of training (or more to the point untraining) an indirect damage spell on a particular minion would be.

I'm sure Jon will address this in his copious free time ;)

MrC [DodgingTheEvilForgeFees] January 14 2005 1:48 AM EST

Actually I think the only time it only shows up on the first minion is when it's facing MM or Decay and only that minion gets hit, I know for sure that my char often gets 0 AMF damage from my minion and 10-20k on my ToJ, my minion being the one to cast AMF and always surviving against my opponents.

I'd hate to see all the AMF damage show up next to just the caster, meat shields are incredibly good against mages and it'd be a shame not to be able to easily see just how good it does. Besides, it also lets you see where you need the majority of your HP.

[MG]Mecca-Devilbot [Clan of One] January 14 2005 5:44 PM EST

As in CB1, DI from AMf is calc'd thusly :

The minion that casts the AMF does NOT get all the DI. The
DI is assigned when the spell hits.
Which means....
If a FB/CoC hits all 4 minion, and the FB/CoC caster gets 100
AMF damage, each minion would have 25 DI from the
FB/CoC hitting them.
If a mage casts MM/Decay, and the AMF does 100 damage, all
the DI would go to the minion that got hit by the MM.

bartjan January 14 2005 5:53 PM EST

AMF damage is always assigned to the first minion alive.

Assigning it to the AMF caster is not really possible, as you then have the problem if someone has 2 or more minions with AMF: how do you divide that?

ottar January 15 2005 1:20 PM EST

if two or more minions cast AMF, then AMF DI should be divided proportionally to AMF train level. As I put it in the first post of this thread:

In the event that there is more than one casting minion, it should be pro-rated according to the casting levels of the minions involved.

bartjan January 15 2005 1:38 PM EST

'divided proportionally' is not the same as each individual contribution...

[FireBreathing]Chicken January 15 2005 1:58 PM EST

just add it up.
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