This familiar healing bug is starting to bug me. (in General)


AvoidCXT March 6 2005 1:20 AM EST

This bug has happened two times before, against Forg Killa!(named OSU Beaver at the time), and once against KM, and there were probably several others that I just didn't notice. In both earlier cases, many times when I would attack the char, it would be weakened, but then when I checked the battle logs, I didn't see any attack that would have weakened the char. Proteus was weakened before the first battle shown below, because his familiar isn't present at all, however, in the battle log clip below, there is no battle that would result in a weakened defender Proteus. The second play-by-play is a normal battle.



The First (HellFire) Proteus II (The Order of Chaos) The First 2 12:51 AM EST
You are awarded $44 and your Minions receive 10 exp each. Clan bonus: 14.4%.
Post-battle stats
Minion EXP HP ST DX AC DI Ammo
The Other First 6,853 -10,768 20 20 4 0
The Other Last's familiar 109,645 37,774 62,956 0 0
The Other Last 6,852 73,307 20 20 0 29,908
The First 6,850 73,500 20 20 7 25,822
The Last 6,850 66,013 20 26 5 8,624

Play-by-play
The First Proteus II
The Last cast Dispel Magic on all enemy Minions (24,484)
The Other First cast Ablative Shield on all friendly Minions (46689)
The Last cast Protection on all friendly Minions (8)
AMF Mage cast Antimagic Field on The Other Last (0.55)
AMF Mage cast Antimagic Field on The First (0.55)
AMF Mage cast Antimagic Field on The Last (0.63)
AMF Mage's Guardian Angel fizzles under Dispel Magic
MM Mage's Protection fizzles under Dispel Magic
Ranged Combat
The Other Last takes damage from his own Magic missile (9500)!
The Other Last's Magic missile hit AMF Mage [10762]
The Other Last cries "For the other cause!"
The First takes damage from his own Magic missile (9513)!
The First's Magic missile hit MM Mage [11962]
The Last takes damage from his own Magic missile (9040)!
The Last's Magic missile hit MM Mage [8624]
MM Mage's Magic missile hit The Other First [22126]
R.I.P. AMF Mage

The Other Last takes damage from his own Magic missile (10688)!
The Other Last's Magic missile hit MM Mage [19146]
The First takes damage from his own Magic missile (10702)!
The First's Magic missile hit MM Mage [13860]
The First cries "For the cause!"
MM Mage's Magic missile hit The Other First [35351]
R.I.P. The Other First R.I.P. MM Mage



The First (HellFire) Proteus II (The Order of Chaos) The First 6 12:51 AM EST
You are awarded $121 and your Minions receive 14 exp each. Clan bonus: 14.4%.

Post-battle stats
Minion EXP HP ST DX AC DI Ammo
The Other First 6,867 -15,316 20 20 4 0
The Other Last's familiar 71,201 37,774 62,956 0 18,060
The Other Last 6,866 25,803 20 20 0 51,249
The First 6,864 37,824 20 20 7 37,168
The Last 6,864 21,943 20 26 5 26,253

Play-by-play
The First Proteus II
The Last cast Dispel Magic on all enemy Minions (24,484)
The Other First cast Ablative Shield on all friendly Minions (46689)
The Last cast Protection on all friendly Minions (8)
AMF Mage cast Antimagic Field on The Other Last (0.55)
AMF Mage cast Antimagic Field on The First (0.55)
AMF Mage cast Antimagic Field on The Last (0.63)
AMF Mage's Guardian Angel fizzles under Dispel Magic
MM Mage's Protection fizzles under Dispel Magic
Ranged Combat
The Other Last takes damage from his own Magic missile (9500)!
The Other Last's Magic missile hit AMF Mage [12508]
The Other Last cries "For the other cause!"
The First takes damage from his own Magic missile (9513)!
The First's Magic missile hit MM Mage's familiar [3576]
The Last takes damage from his own Magic missile (9040)!
The Last's Magic missile hit MM Mage's familiar [2311]
MM Mage's Magic missile hit The Other First [27463]
R.I.P. AMF Mage

The Other Last takes damage from his own Magic missile (10688)!
The Other Last's Magic missile hit MM Mage's familiar [5535]
The First takes damage from his own Magic missile (10702)!
The First's Magic missile hit MM Mage's familiar [6336]
The Last takes damage from his own Magic missile (10170)!
The Last's Magic missile hit MM Mage's familiar [2520]
MM Mage's Magic missile hit The Other First [34562]
R.I.P. The Other First

Melee Combat
The Other Last's familiar's blow was dodged by MM Mage's familiar
The Other Last takes damage from his own Magic missile (11876)!
The Other Last's Magic missile hit MM Mage's familiar [7275]
The First takes damage from his own Magic missile (11892)!
The First's Magic missile hit MM Mage's familiar [6160]
The Last takes damage from his own Magic missile (11300)!
The Last's Magic missile hit MM Mage's familiar [3499]
MM Mage's familiar mistimed his attack at The Other Last's familiar
MM Mage's Magic missile hit The Other Last's familiar [7218]

The Other Last's familiar tapped MM Mage's familiar [1881]
The Other Last takes damage from his own Magic missile (11876)!
The Other Last's Magic missile hit MM Mage's familiar [5933]
The First takes damage from his own Magic missile (11892)!
The First's Magic missile hit MM Mage's familiar [3776]
The Last takes damage from his own Magic missile (11300)!
The Last's Magic missile hit MM Mage's familiar [2629]
MM Mage's familiar tapped The Other Last's familiar [1727]
MM Mage's Magic missile hit The Other Last's familiar [6586]

The Other Last's familiar crunched MM Mage's familiar [2580]
The Other Last takes damage from his own Magic missile (11876)!
The Other Last's Magic missile hit MM Mage's familiar [6078]
The Other Last cries "For the other cause!"
The First takes damage from his own Magic missile (11892)!
The First's Magic missile hit MM Mage [17320]
The Last takes damage from his own Magic missile (11300)!
The Last's Magic missile hit MM Mage [15294]
MM Mage's familiar's blow was dodged by The Other Last's familiar
MM Mage's Magic missile hit The Other Last's familiar [14936]
R.I.P. MM Mage's familiar

The Other Last's familiar crunched MM Mage [7294]
The Other Last's familiar pounded MM Mage [6305]
The Other Last takes damage from his own Magic missile (11876)!
The Other Last's Magic missile hit MM Mage [13920]
The Other Last cries "For the other cause!"
MM Mage's Magic missile hit The Other Last's familiar [7977]
R.I.P. MM Mage


Proteus II (The Order of Chaos) Goldminer (Freaks) Proteus II 4 12:51 AM EST
Proteus II (The Order of Chaos) Jangja (Force Majeure) Proteus II 4 12:51 AM EST
Proteus II (The Order of Chaos) Tezmac (Les Grammarians) Proteus II 10 12:51 AM EST
The First (HellFire) Proteus II (The Order of Chaos) The First 6 12:51 AM EST
Proteus II (The Order of Chaos) Saints (Ministry of Pain) Proteus II 7 12:51 AM EST
Proteus II (The Order of Chaos) Spike Spiegel (Always everywhere) Proteus II 6 12:51 AM EST
Proteus II (The Order of Chaos) Hejin (Isle of the Pirate King) Proteus II 5 12:51 AM EST
Proteus II (The Order of Chaos) Master Xi (Energy drink) Proteus II 7 12:51 AM EST
Proteus II (The Order of Chaos) MasterLancer (Battle Royale) Proteus II 6 12:51 AM EST
Proteus II (The Order of Chaos) Flame (killas) Proteus II 6 12:51 AM EST
The First (HellFire) Proteus II (The Order of Chaos) The First 2 12:51 AM EST
Proteus II (The Order of Chaos) SDS PAGE (Isle of the Pirate King) Proteus II 6 12:51 AM EST
Proteus II (The Order of Chaos) Toskythe (Legion of Mages) Proteus II 4 12:51 AM EST
Proteus II (The Order of Chaos) Jangja (Force Majeure) Proteus II 4 12:51 AM EST
Proteus II (The Order of Chaos) Tezmac (Les Grammarians) Proteus II 7 12:51 AM EST
The First (HellFire) Proteus II (The Order of Chaos) The First 3 12:51 AM EST
Proteus II (The Order of Chaos) Spike Spiegel (Always everywhere) Proteus II 6 12:51 AM EST
Proteus II (The Order of Chaos) Saints (Ministry of Pain) Proteus II 7 12:51 AM ES

AvoidCXT March 6 2005 2:02 AM EST

I haven't had a broken battle against Proteus for a while. Maybe it only happened because he was fighting.

AvoidCXT March 7 2005 11:33 PM EST

Here again, HEPHAISTOS's battle logs don't show any battle that would leave him a weakened defender. But, there is a battle where he is lacking a familiar. And again, it happened while he was fighting. My last five battles against him were only three rounds each and gave crappy xp, this bug is really starting to get annoying.

HEPHAISTOS (Bone Collectors) Proteus II (The Order of Chaos) Draw 5 11:22 PM EST
The First (HellFire) HEPHAISTOS (Bone Collectors) The First 4 11:22 PM EST
HEPHAISTOS (Bone Collectors) Talhearn (Nomads of Valinor) HEPHAISTOS 2 11:22 PM EST
HEPHAISTOS (Bone Collectors) Rahl (DHaran Elite) HEPHAISTOS 3 11:22 PM EST
HEPHAISTOS (Bone Collectors) Koko (Hell Blenders) HEPHAISTOS 3 11:22 PM EST
The First (HellFire) HEPHAISTOS (Bone Collectors) The First 3 11:22 PM EST
HEPHAISTOS (Bone Collectors) Undertow (Brotherhood of Valinor) HEPHAISTOS 3 11:22 PM EST
The First (HellFire) HEPHAISTOS (Bone Collectors) The First 3 11:22 PM EST
HEPHAISTOS (Bone Collectors) Fear (The Replacements) HEPHAISTOS 2 11:22 PM EST
HEPHAISTOS (Bone Collectors) A Melon Named Harold (Tribute Nation) HEPHAISTOS 2 11:22 PM EST


Play-by-play
The First HEPHAISTOS
The Last cast Dispel Magic on all enemy Minions (26,435)
The Other First cast Ablative Shield on all friendly Minions (33768)
The Last's Protection fizzles under Dispel Magic
Fiery Death cast Dispel Magic on all enemy Minions (29,583)
Ranged Combat
Fiery Death's Fireball hit The Other First [20566], The Other Last's familiar [5933], The Other Last [14158], The First [15950], The Last [12343]

The Other Last's Magic missile hit Fiery Death [31004]
The First's Magic missile hit Fiery Death [36483]
The Last's Magic missile hit Fiery Death [26155]
Fiery Death's Fireball hit The Other First [17679], The Other Last's familiar [4002], The Other Last [20698], The First [12100], The Last [23833]
Fiery Death cries "I consumed him in the end!"
R.I.P. The Other First

The Other Last's Magic missile hit Fiery Death [41165]
The Other Last cries "For the other cause!"
Fiery Death's Fireball hit The Other Last's familiar [7750], The Other Last [20765], The First [23499], The Last [26250]
R.I.P. Fiery Death




play-by-play
The First HEPHAISTOS
The Last cast Dispel Magic on all enemy Minions (26,435)
The Other First cast Ablative Shield on all friendly Minions (33768)
The Last's Protection fizzles under Dispel Magic
Fiery Death cast Dispel Magic on all enemy Minions (29,583)
Ranged Combat
Fiery Death's Fireball hit The Other First [15538], The Other Last's familiar [5775], The Other Last [11804], The First [15335], The Last [14123]

The Other Last's Magic missile hit Fiery Death's familiar [8173]
The First's Magic missile hit Fiery Death's familiar [12055]
The Last's Magic missile hit Fiery Death's familiar [15773]
Fiery Death's Fireball hit The Other First [13325], The Other Last's familiar [6484], The Other Last [13490], The First [16849], The Last [13725]

The Other Last's Magic missile hit Fiery Death's familiar [10707]
The Other Last cries "For the other cause!"
The First's Magic missile hit Fiery Death [33368]
The Last's Magic missile hit Fiery Death [29054]
Fiery Death's Fireball hit The Other First [19755], The Other Last's familiar [6034], The Other Last [18031], The First [23953], The Last [18922]
Fiery Death cries "I consumed him in the end!"
R.I.P. The Other First R.I.P. Fiery Death's familiar

Melee Combat
The Other Last's familiar fractured Fiery Death [8447]
The Other Last's familiar bruised Fiery Death [6445]
The Other Last's Magic missile hit Fiery Death [31100]
The First's Magic missile hit Fiery Death [34910]
The First cries "For the cause!"
Fiery Death's Fireball hit The Other Last's familiar [5212], The Other Last [19737], The First [19474], The Last [19545]
Fiery Death cries "I consumed him in the end!"
R.I.P. The Last R.I.P. Fiery Death

AvoidCXT March 7 2005 11:37 PM EST

And now proteus is doing it again, and what a coincidence, he's fighitng too.
Play-by-play
The First Proteus II
The Last cast Dispel Magic on all enemy Minions (26,435)
The Other First cast Ablative Shield on all friendly Minions (47968)
The Last cast Protection on all friendly Minions (8)
AMF Mage cast Antimagic Field on The Other Last (0.56)
AMF Mage cast Antimagic Field on The First (0.56)
AMF Mage cast Antimagic Field on The Last (0.65)
AMF Mage's Guardian Angel fizzles under Dispel Magic
Ranged Combat
The Other Last takes damage from his own Magic missile (9902)!
The Other Last's Magic missile hit AMF Mage [11010]
The First takes damage from his own Magic missile (9915)!
The First's Magic missile hit AMF Mage [13149]
The First cries "For the cause!"
The Last takes damage from his own Magic missile (9327)!
The Last's Magic missile hit MM Mage [6108]
MM Mage's Magic missile hit The Other First [26315]
R.I.P. AMF Mage

The Other Last takes damage from his own Magic missile (11140)!
The Other Last's Magic missile hit MM Mage [12572]
The First takes damage from his own Magic missile (11154)!
The First's Magic missile hit MM Mage [15112]
The Last takes damage from his own Magic missile (10493)!
The Last's Magic missile hit MM Mage [7780]
MM Mage's Magic missile hit The Other First [38577]
R.I.P. The Other First

Melee Combat
The Other Last's familiar beat MM Mage [9006]
The Other Last takes damage from his own Magic missile (12378)!
The Other Last's Magic missile hit MM Mage [18674]
The Other Last cries "For the other cause!"
MM Mage's Magic missile hit The Other Last's familiar [24494]
R.I.P. MM Mage

AvoidCXT March 8 2005 12:29 AM EST

I decided to see if I was the only one with this problem, so I looked through some battle logs and of the four farmers I found, three looked like the bug, and the fourth didn't have a tattoo.



Looking through Lord Nancho Cheese's battle logs, I see that nearly every time Falcon attacks, it lasts 3 or 4 rounds.
Falcon (HellFire) Lord Nacho Cheese (Bone Collectors) Falcon 3 March 7 2005 10:11 PM EST
Falcon (HellFire) Lord Nacho Cheese (Bone Collectors) Falcon 3 March 7 2005 10:11 PM EST
Falcon (HellFire) Lord Nacho Cheese (Bone Collectors) Falcon 4 March 7 2005 10:10 PM EST
Falcon (HellFire) Lord Nacho Cheese (Bone Collectors) Falcon 3 March 7 2005 10:10 PM EST
Falcon (HellFire) Lord Nacho Cheese (Bone Collectors) Falcon 3 March 7 2005 8:51 PM EST
Falcon (HellFire) Lord Nacho Cheese (Bone Collectors) Falcon 3 March 7 2005 8:50 PM EST

There were two one round battles, and they happened while LNC was fighting.
Lord Nacho Cheese (Bone Collectors) Alucard (BrimStone) Lord Nacho Cheese 1 March 7 2005 10:56 PM EST
Lord Nacho Cheese (Bone Collectors) Roc-A-Fella (Flaming_Fist) Lord Nacho Cheese 3 March 7 2005 10:56 PM EST
Lord Nacho Cheese (Bone Collectors) Illinois II (Mages of Darkness) Lord Nacho Cheese 2 March 7 2005 10:56 PM EST
Lord Nacho Cheese (Bone Collectors) Fuel (BrimStone) Lord Nacho Cheese 4 March 7 2005 10:56 PM EST
Lord Nacho Cheese (Bone Collectors) MasterLancer (Battle Royale) Lord Nacho Cheese 3 March 7 2005 10:56 PM EST
Falcon (HellFire) Lord Nacho Cheese (Bone Collectors) Falcon 3 March 7 2005 10:56 PM EST

Falcon (HellFire) Lord Nacho Cheese (Bone Collectors) Falcon 1 March 7 2005 10:56 PM EST
Falcon (HellFire) Lord Nacho Cheese (Bone Collectors) Falcon 1 March 7 2005 10:56 PM EST

Lord Nacho Cheese (Bone Collectors) Alucard (BrimStone) Lord Nacho Cheese 2 March 7 2005 10:56 PM EST
Lord Nacho Cheese (Bone Collectors) Roc-A-Fella (Flaming_Fist) Lord Nacho Cheese 3 March 7 2005 10:56 PM EST
Lord Nacho Cheese (Bone Collectors) Alucard (BrimStone) Lord Nacho Cheese 2 March 7 2005 10:56 PM EST
Lord Nacho Cheese (Bone Collectors) Illinois II (Mages of Darkness) Lord Nacho Cheese 3 March 7 2005 10:56 PM EST
Lord Nacho Cheese (Bone Collectors) Fuel (BrimStone) Lord Nacho Cheese 4 March 7 2005 10:56 PM EST
Falcon (HellFire) Lord Nacho Cheese (Bone Collectors) Falcon 3 March 7 2005 10:56 PM EST
Lord Nacho Cheese (Bone Collectors) Roc-A-Fella (Flaming_Fist) Lord Nacho Cheese 3 March 7 2005 10:55 PM EST
Falcon (HellFire) Lord Nacho Cheese (Bone Collectors) Falcon 3 March 7 2005 10:55 PM EST
Lord Nacho Cheese (Bone Collectors) Illinois II (Mages of Darkness) Lord Nacho Cheese 2 March 7 2005 10:55 PM EST
Lord Nacho Cheese (Bone Collectors) Fuel (BrimStone) Lord Nacho Cheese 4 March 7 2005 10:55 PM EST



Then we have Team Death attacking forg killa, all of the battles are 5-7 rounds.
Team Death (Battle Royale) Forg Killa! (The Replacements) Team Death 6 12:13 AM EST
Team Death (Battle Royale) Forg Killa! (The Replacements) Team Death 7 12:13 AM EST
Team Death (Battle Royale) Forg Killa! (The Replacements) Team Death 7 12:12 AM EST
Team Death (Battle Royale) Forg Killa! (The Replacements) Team Death 7 12:11 AM EST
Team Death (Battle Royale) Forg Killa! (The Replacements) Team Death 6 12:10 AM EST
Team Death (Battle Royale) Forg Killa! (The Replacements) Team Death 6 12:08 AM EST
Team Death (Battle Royale) Forg Killa! (The Replacements) Team Death 6 12:07 AM EST
Team Death (Battle Royale) Forg Killa! (The Replacements) Draw 6 12:07 AM EST
Team Death (Battle Royale) Forg Killa! (The Replacements) Team Death 5 12:06 AM EST
Team Death (Battle Royale) Forg Killa! (The Replacements) Team Death 5 12:05 AM EST
Team Death (Battle Royale) Forg Killa! (The Replacements) Team Death 5 12:04 AM EST
Team Death (Battle Royale) Forg Killa! (The Replacements) Team Death 5 12:04 AM EST
Team Death (Battle Royale) Forg Killa! (The Replacements) Team Death 6 12:04 AM EST
Team Death (Battle Royale) Forg Killa! (The Replacements) Team Death 5 12:03 AM EST
Team Death (Battle Royale) Forg Killa! (The Replacements) Team Death 5 12:02 AM EST
Team Death (Battle Royale) Forg Killa! (The Replacements) Team Death 5 12:02 AM EST

Except for when Forg Killa is fighting:
Forg Killa! (The Replacements) Falcon (HellFire) Forg Killa! 7 12:02 AM EST

Team Death (Battle Royale) Forg Killa! (The Replacements) Team Death 4 12:02 AM EST

Forg Killa! (The Replacements) Goldminer (Freaks) Forg Killa! 5 12:02 AM EST
Forg Killa! (The Replacements) almuric (Force Majeure) Forg Killa! 7 12:02 AM EST
Team Death (Battle Royale) Forg Killa! (The Replacements) Team Death 5 12:02 AM EST
Forg Killa! (The Replacements) Spid (HellFire) Forg Killa! 9 12:01 AM EST
Team Death (Battle Royale) Forg Killa! (The Replacements) Team Death 5 12:01 AM EST
Forg Killa! (The Replacements) mechanical squirrel (Brotherhood of Valinor) Forg Killa! 13 12:01 AM EST
Team Death (Battle Royale) Forg Killa! (The Replacements) Team Death 5 12:01 AM EST
Team Death (Battle Royale) Forg Killa! (The Replacements) Team Death 5 12:01 AM EST
Forg Killa! (The Replacements) Shield (Battle Royale) Forg Killa! 6 12:01 AM EST
Team Death (Battle Royale) Forg Killa! (The Replacements) Team Death 5 12:01 AM EST
Forg Killa! (The Replacements) Jochumia (The Renegades) Forg Killa! 5 12:01 AM EST
Team Death (Battle Royale) Forg Killa! (The Replacements) Team Death 6 12:01 AM EST
Forg Killa! (The Replacements) HypnoToad (BrimStone) Forg Killa! 11 12:01 AM EST
Forg Killa! (The Replacements) The Steveh (HellFire) Forg Killa! 14 12:01 AM EST
Team Death (Battle Royale) Forg Killa! (The Replacements) Team Death 5 12:01 AM EST
Forg Killa! (The Replacements) mechanical squirrel (Brotherhood of Valinor) Forg Killa! 13 12:01 AM EST


Here, Becomming attacks me for almost a whole hour, and all the battles are 5-6 rounds.
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 5 March 7 2005 6:55 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 5 March 7 2005 6:54 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 6 March 7 2005 6:53 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 6 March 7 2005 6:52 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 5 March 7 2005 6:52 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 5 March 7 2005 6:51 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 6 March 7 2005 6:50 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 6 March 7 2005 6:49 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 5 March 7 2005 6:49 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 5 March 7 2005 6:49 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 5 March 7 2005 6:47 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 5 March 7 2005 6:46 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 6 March 7 2005 6:46 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 6 March 7 2005 6:44 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 6 March 7 2005 6:43 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 5 March 7 2005 6:43 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 5 March 7 2005 6:42 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 5 March 7 2005 6:42 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 5 March 7 2005 6:35 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 5 March 7 2005 6:35 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 5 March 7 2005 6:29 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 6 March 7 2005 6:29 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 5 March 7 2005 6:28 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 5 March 7 2005 6:28 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 5 March 7 2005 6:27 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 5 March 7 2005 6:26 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 6 March 7 2005 6:25 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 5 March 7 2005 6:24 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 6 March 7 2005 6:23 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 6 March 7 2005 6:23 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 5 March 7 2005 6:22 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 5 March 7 2005 6:21 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 5 March 7 2005 6:21 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 5 March 7 2005 6:20 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 5 March 7 2005 6:19 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 6 March 7 2005 6:19 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 6 March 7 2005 6:18 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 6 March 7 2005 6:18 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 6 March 7 2005 6:17 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 5 March 7 2005 6:16 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 6 March 7 2005 6:15 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 6 March 7 2005 6:15 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 5 March 7 2005 6:14 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 5 March 7 2005 6:14 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 5 March 7 2005 6:13 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 6 March 7 2005 6:13 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 6 March 7 2005 6:12 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 5 March 7 2005 6:12 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 6 March 7 2005 6:11 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 5 March 7 2005 6:10 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 5 March 7 2005 6:10 PM EST

But while I'm fighting, boy there's a lot of 3-4 rounders.
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 4 March 7 2005 11:41 PM EST
The First (HellFire) Proteus II (The Order of Chaos) The First 6 March 7 2005 11:41 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 4 March 7 2005 11:41 PM EST
The First (HellFire) HEPHAISTOS (Bone Collectors) The First 4 March 7 2005 11:41 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 4 March 7 2005 11:40 PM EST
The First (HellFire) Susan Death (Les Grammarians) The First 4 March 7 2005 11:40 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 6 March 7 2005 11:40 PM EST
The First (HellFire) Alienfb (Nomads of Valinor) The First 7 March 7 2005 11:40 PM EST
The First (HellFire) Proteus II (The Order of Chaos) The First 3 March 7 2005 11:40 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 4 March 7 2005 11:40 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 3 March 7 2005 11:40 PM EST
The First (HellFire) HEPHAISTOS (Bone Collectors) The First 3 March 7 2005 11:40 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 4 March 7 2005 11:40 PM EST
The First (HellFire) Proteus II (The Order of Chaos) The First 6 March 7 2005 11:40 PM EST
The First (HellFire) HEPHAISTOS (Bone Collectors) The First 4 March 7 2005 11:40 PM EST
The First (HellFire) Susan Death (Les Grammarians) The First 3 March 7 2005 11:40 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 4 March 7 2005 11:40 PM EST
The First (HellFire) Alienfb (Nomads of Valinor) The First 7 March 7 2005 11:40 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 6 March 7 2005 11:40 PM EST
The First (HellFire) HEPHAISTOS (Bone Collectors) The First 3 March 7 2005 11:40 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 4 March 7 2005 11:40 PM EST
The First (HellFire) Proteus II (The Order of Chaos) The First 2 March 7 2005 11:40 PM EST
The First (HellFire) HEPHAISTOS (Bone Collectors) The First 3 March 7 2005 11:40 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 4 March 7 2005 11:40 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 3 March 7 2005 11:40 PM EST
The First (HellFire) Susan Death (Les Grammarians) The First 4 March 7 2005 11:40 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 4 March 7 2005 11:40 PM EST
The First (HellFire) Alienfb (Nomads of Valinor) The First 7 March 7 2005 11:40 PM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 5 March 7 2005 11:39 PM EST
The First (HellFire) Susan Death (Les Grammarians) The First 4 March 7 2005 11:39 PM EST
The First (HellFire) Susan Death (Les Grammarians) The First 4 March 7 2005 11:39 PM EST
The First (HellFire) Susan Death (Les Grammarians) The First 4 March 7 2005 11:39 PM EST

Becoming March 8 2005 3:40 AM EST

At Avoid's request, I looked at a battle log when I challenged him in between his fights. Note that his character, The First, has a ToJ equipped.

The play-by-play is for the battle shown in bold.

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70 most recent battles
Attacker     Defender     Winner     Rounds     Date
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 4 3:07 AM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 4 3:06 AM EST
The First (HellFire) oOo (Republic of tATu) The First 8 3:06 AM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 4 3:06 AM EST
The First (HellFire) HEPHAISTOS (Bone Collectors) The First 4 3:06 AM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 5 3:06 AM EST
The First (HellFire) Alienfb (Nomads of Valinor) The First 7 3:06 AM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 4 3:06 AM EST
Becoming (Nomads of Valinor) The First (HellFire) Becoming 6 3:06 AM EST
The First (HellFire) oOo (Republic of tATu) The First 8 3:06 AM EST

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 Play-by-play
BecomingThe First
Phil cast Dispel Magic on all enemy Minions (800)
Rex cast Ablative Shield on all friendly Minions (38046)
Vinnie cast Antimagic Field on The Other Last (0.64)
Vinnie cast Antimagic Field on The First (0.64)
Vinnie cast Antimagic Field on The Last (0.71)
Vinnie's Protection fizzles under Dispel Magic
Darrell's Guardian Angel fizzles under Dispel Magic
The Last cast Dispel Magic on all enemy Minions (26,435)
The Other First cast Ablative Shield on all friendly Minions (47584)
The Last cast Protection on all friendly Minions (8)
Ranged Combat
Darrell's Magic missile hit The Other First [47777]
Phil's Magic missile hit The Other Last [30905]
The Other Last takes damage from his own Magic missile (11317)!
The Other Last's Magic missile hit Rex [13681]
The First takes damage from his own Magic missile (11331)!
The First's Magic missile hit Rex [8363]
The Last takes damage from his own Magic missile (10188)!
The Last's Magic missile hit Rex [5977]
R.I.P. The Other First
 
Darrell's Magic missile hit The Other Last [40932]
Phil's Magic missile hit The Other Last [53684]
The Other Last takes damage from his own Magic missile (12731)!
The Other Last's Magic missile hit Rex [13080]
The Other Last cries "For the other cause!"
The First takes damage from his own Magic missile (12748)!
The First's Magic missile hit Vinnie's familiar [3457]
The Last takes damage from his own Magic missile (11461)!
The Last's Magic missile hit Vinnie's familiar [2017]
R.I.P. RexR.I.P. The Other Last
 
Melee Combat
Vinnie's familiar bruised The First [7374]
Vinnie's familiar bruised The First [5807]
Darrell's Magic missile hit The First [39792]
Phil's Magic missile hit The First [51306]
The First takes damage from his own Magic missile (14164)!
The First's Magic missile hit Vinnie's familiar [3572]
The Last takes damage from his own Magic missile (12735)!
The Last's Magic missile hit Vinnie's familiar [2802]
R.I.P. The First
 
Vinnie's familiar pounded The Last [8005]
Vinnie's familiar beat The Last [7609]
Darrell's Magic missile hit The Last [49743]
The Last takes damage from his own Magic missile (12735)!
The Last's Magic missile hit Vinnie's familiar [2099]
R.I.P. The Last
 


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Notice the absence of The Other Last's familiar. This is the bug in action.

Becoming March 8 2005 9:39 AM EST

Since I started actively watching for this bug, I have noticed that it is able to be produced 100% of the time. It has occured every single time (when I had play-by-play on to notice) that I have hit someone in between their fights.

QBsutekh137 March 8 2005 9:48 AM EST

This is asking a lot, because you guys have already done a lot of research, but could Avoid put his ToJ all the way on back so that it remains alive between battles? Then see if it is there?

It is hard to tell if the ToJ is just not healing or is simply absent from some fights. To me, it looks like the "internal" and "external" views of a character are maybe not taking the ToJ into account. If I fight and my ToJ dies, it remains dead even if SOMEONE else attacks me. All the other minions are behaving correctly -- fully healed when someone else attacks. But since the ToJ is basically like equipment, maybe it is not following the rules properly?

This is all wild speculation -- this one is a puzzler.

AdminJonathan March 8 2005 11:06 AM EST

Fixed, thanks.

QBsutekh137 March 8 2005 11:49 AM EST

w00t Avoid, excellent catch! I would not have noticed this in a trillion years. That's right, a TRILLION!

QBBast [Hidden Agenda] March 8 2005 11:50 AM EST

Thank you, Avoid!

Becoming March 9 2005 1:47 AM EST

This bug still exists at the time of this posting.

Becoming March 10 2005 1:42 PM EST

Yes, this bug still exists.

Every single time that you fight someone with a ToJ (the only type I've tested) in between their challenges, they have no familiar.

AdminJonathan March 10 2005 11:32 PM EST

Fixed better

QBsutekh137 March 10 2005 11:49 PM EST

Way to commit, Jon. *smile*

Coming soon (and I seriously am just kidding here):

"Fixed in some way more acceptable to a moderate degree."
"Fixed. I think. I changed the way the...thingies...worked with the...other thingies. What was the question again?"
"Fixed. F-I-X-E-D. Fixed."
"Fixed in a way that will get me by until I can arrange travel to a Latin American country with no extradition laws."
"Fixed! Now with 37% more fixety goodness!"
"Cripes, Chet, give it a rest, will ya?"
"I have no idea what I just did. Seriously. No clue. But it is really cool. And fixed. Did I mention I think it is fixed? Next change month is May, right? Off to bed for me!"

Becoming March 11 2005 5:08 PM EST

Indeed, it is fixed better!
This thread is closed to new posts. However, you are welcome to reference it from a new thread; link this with the html <a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=001EK5">This familiar healing bug is starting to bug me.</a>