AMF/GA Question (in General)

Undertow April 11 2005 1:18 PM EDT

Amf reduces damage, which allows GA to hit for more, because the ratio of GA level to Damage is greater, correct?

LumpBot April 11 2005 1:19 PM EDT

I thought AMF just sent back a portion of the damage. You still take full damage I believe, but they also take damage. So AMF and GA together deals more to them but you still take a normal amount....I think

Undertow April 11 2005 1:21 PM EDT

No, AMF reduces damage, I KNOW that.

LumpBot April 11 2005 1:30 PM EDT

Err...sorry about that, I comepletely didn't pay attention to what I typed. AMF does reduce damage. Maybe CB and college work shouldn't go hand in hand =P As for your question I don't know but I would assume GA does less because you recieve less damage. You are talking about both enchantments on the same team right?

GnuUzir April 11 2005 1:30 PM EDT

AMF can reduce up to 100% of the damage, but it can only return 40% (I think). But I don't think it would make your GA hit for more, unless the damage you would receive from the DD was out of proportion to your GA...

Undertow April 11 2005 1:45 PM EDT

Wait... more was a bad word to use.

Okay, rough number that are way off.

Let's say a 50k mm comes your way.

You've got your GA trained to whatever amount... I don't know, 30k.

the ratio is 3/5.

Now, you have amf trained, and it blocks 10k of the damage.

Now your GA/damage ratio is 3/4 correct?

So GA follows actual damage recieved, and no the amount the spell is trained for...?

GnuUzir April 11 2005 2:05 PM EDT

I think GA is damage received, so under that assumption you are correct...

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] April 11 2005 2:21 PM EDT

AMF doesn't increase the amount of damage GA returns, but as the amount returned by GA is based on the da,age you take, you can get away with having a lower GA than you normally would.

So in a way, AMF does increase the amount your GA does, as long as your GA isn't already so large it's reached the cap on what it can return (50%?)


Starseed^Lure April 11 2005 5:59 PM EDT

AMF will increase the percentage returned by GA proportional to the amount of damage dealt. In the vast majority of these cases, GA will return a higher percentage of damage, but less total damage.

Barron [CB2BANK Investors Club] April 25 2005 4:40 PM EDT

Does anyone know how to calculate 'how much' damage is reduced by amf? For instance, how much damage reduction does an amf of 50k provide if ac/protection/endurance were constant?

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 April 25 2005 4:42 PM EDT

it depends on the level of DD spell

Barron [CB2BANK Investors Club] April 25 2005 4:43 PM EDT

heh ok..make the dd spell constant too then :)

chernobyl April 25 2005 8:38 PM EDT

This is all speculation and curve-guessing but this is what I have got:
GA deals damage up to 50% of damage dealt, unless that amount is in excess of GA's level; in that case, the total amount is GA's level, reduced by a percentage related to how much in excess the damage was; haven't figured that curve out for lack of data. The final amount includes a plus or minus of about 5%. The damage is further cut in half again (to 1/4) if the source damage was UC. Also, 'damage dealt' also only includes damage above 0 HP.
In relation to AMF, since AMF reduces damage, GA will in turn deal comparatively less; except in the rare case that AMF is reducing the DD from an exceedingly high level to a level that is very close to or below your GA level.
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