Fight Log for fun (in General)

So, just for fun, here's a fight log with Spid vs. Good Guy.

Me: Score / PR / MPR: 747,501 / 680,975 / 490,328
Antimagic Field: 635,978/578,162

He: Score / PR / MPR: 711,264 / 515,217 / 377,063



Play-by-play
Spid Good Guy
Spid cast Dispel Magic on all enemy Minions (40,000)
I'm rubber, you're glue cast Antimagic Field on Mage (0.60)
I'm rubber, you're glue's Guardian Angel fizzles under Dispel Magic
Spid's Vampiric Aura fizzles under Dispel Magic
Mage cast Dispel Magic on all enemy Minions (101,100)
Mage cast Protection on all friendly Minions (5)
Ranged Combat
Spid hit The Wall [9578]
Spid hit The Wall [10824]
Spid hit The Wall [4242]
Mage takes damage from his own Fireball (44388)!
Mage's Fireball hit I'm rubber, you're glue [26143], Spid [38724]
Mage cries "Edin Pedal Po Malko!"
R.I.P. I'm rubber, you're glue

Spid shot The Wall [3743]
Spid shot The Wall [7104]
Spid hit The Wall [4910]
Mage takes damage from his own Fireball (53522)!
Mage's Fireball hit Spid [71869]

Spid hit The Wall [6500]
Spid shot The Wall [3818]
Mage takes damage from his own Fireball (62656)!
Mage's Fireball hit Spid [104147]

Melee Combat
Spid gashed The Wall with Conflagration [30409]
Spid clove The Wall with Conflagration [29479]
The Wall swung wildly at Spid
Mage takes damage from his own Fireball (71790)!
Mage's Fireball hit Spid [104435], The Wall [15181]

Spid sliced into The Wall with Conflagration [18458]
Spid dislimbed The Wall with Conflagration [35699]
The Wall mistimed his attack at Spid
Mage takes damage from his own Fireball (71790)!
Mage's Fireball hit Spid [108514]
R.I.P. The Wall

Spid rived Mage with Conflagration [8558]
Spid decapitated Mage with Conflagration [10971]
Spid decapitated Mage with Conflagration [12615]
Mage takes damage from his own Fireball (71790)!
Mage's Fireball hit Spid [131665]
Mage cries "Edin Pedal Po Malko!"
R.I.P. Spid R.I.P. Mage


Discuss.

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From every thing I've seen lately, this is just par for the course.
Welcome to FB Mage-Blender.

Tanks are for people who want to waste a few hundred dollars on the game :P

not much to look at :)

I had battles with 30 lines of battles per line on just one side.

Ah... FB + DM. With a wall and ToE thrown on top for good measure...

"Mage's Fireball hit Spid [131665]"

Now that's with a 60% reduction from AMF...

But hey, over 50% of people don't think FB (especially when combined with DM..) is too powerful.

err I mean 30 lines of battles per round. It did repeat for couple rounds like that though :)

"Mage's Fireball hit Spid [131665]"

Heh, at 100%, that FB does around 329,163 damage...

Now that's a lot more than any of the old archery MPBs.

Consider now, with Archery's recent damage reduction, this FB is worth two maybe three hits?

Physical damage looking sucky to anyone now?

Plus (besides the slightly increasing xp cost) this damage ramps up linearly with FB level, anyone like to hint at the damage FB will be causing by Xmas??

Anyone?

Oh, and "Mage" has only the 8th largest FB in the game...

Shikotsumyakusanji Score / PR / MPR: 843,103 / 582,899 / 426,979

me Score / PR / MPR: 890,042 / 756,141 / 556,217

seems to have worked out how to beat me at least.

Sorry forgot to warn that headache tablets may be needed after viewing ThIsIsNoTYOUiTsMeeh's character.

Rubberduck, from my own experiences with an FB mage with FF he's probably not the reason you're dying. Those fights run to 4 rounds right, so you're probably killing yourself with friendly fire.....that's the downside to using FB with more than one minion - if the FB is big enough you will kill yourself in melee.

lol you think my FF ever lasts to melee

Oh, you think my own FB damages me, wrong it only damages other minions than the caster.

yeah I know that one.. but occasionally it happens. And when it does I hate seeing that friendly fire! Betrayed by your own minions.....

Oh no you don't, sorry, see 1st response.

I was talking about if the familiar lasts into melee then you're got two minions yeah? That's a lot of friendly fire going on...

You're definitely right about the headache tablets though..... wow

I think the familiar dies round 1 most of the time. It never makes it to melee.

Spid you are losing your time DD will not get nerf.

So either move to FF or log in your paypal account.

Once more for luck.

"329,163 damage"

The melee weapon with the biggest base is not necessarily the best anymore due to the Rock-Paper-Scissors effect.

Would a VB with the same NW do more damage due to the ToE you're fighting against?

Rubberduck. Would you mind posting how much damage your FB does to a single target in melee?

I guess with a level of 850K it would do around 500K. Possibly more...

Rock-Paper-Scissors.

Good Guy beats Spid.
Spid beats The Slayers.
The Slayers beats Good Guy.

The circle is round :)

one point I neglected to make, I was using an x22 compund there, ot my x75 elb. I usually win, occasiconally draw to him with that. Winning wasn't the point so much as 300k+ damage ;)

paypal? hardly.

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I get clobbered by big ELBs with around 100k per strike, 3 times a round straight through a ToE

Whats the difference?
Because i don't understand your point here.

My point was with my 'normal' setup, your circle is invalid, as I beat all of you :p

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well just to add to the fun of fight log :) Although I win Good Guy, but well it's also why I don't dump my dear SF and go for TOA :P

Oh and my UC level is Unarmed Combat: 888,374/196,062 (80) . Conservatively estimate to be equivalent to a x90 MH :P

Jyuuken crunched Mage [9683]
Jyuuken crunched Mage [6571] <-- so much damage for a lvl 80 UC :P
Jyuuken beat Mage [8943]
Byakugan's familiar's Magic missile hit Mage [166999] <-- woohoo 470k MM :)

Conclusion, mages are just a must have in any team up here.

In that case i can only fully agree.
Divide and absorb the incomming damage, then strike hard back.
ToE, +30 MgS and 110k AMF reduces his FB nicely enough to survive, and then you see a full 550k FB.

The Slayers Good Guy
Lina Inverse cast Antimagic Field on Mage (0.18)
Lina Inverse's Protection fizzles under Dispel Magic
Mage cast Dispel Magic on all enemy Minions (101,100)
Mage cast Protection on all friendly Minions (17)

Ranged Combat
Gourry Gabriev shot The Wall with TripleStrike [19697]
Gourry Gabriev shot The Wall with TripleStrike [9921]
Lina Inverse's Fireball hit The Wall [13590], Mage [29898]
Mage takes damage from his own Fireball (4795)!
Mage's Fireball hit Gourry Gabriev [11566], Lina Inverse [12336]

Gourry Gabriev hit The Wall with TripleStrike [17450]
Gourry Gabriev shot The Wall with TripleStrike [16156]
Lina Inverse's Fireball hit The Wall [21503], Mage [40956]
Mage takes damage from his own Fireball (5481)!
Mage's Fireball hit Gourry Gabriev [16592], Lina Inverse [33023]

Gourry Gabriev shot The Wall with TripleStrike [18611]
Gourry Gabriev hit The Wall with TripleStrike [20291]
Lina Inverse's Fireball hit The Wall [19197], Mage [46816]
Lina Inverse cries "Teehehe!"
Mage takes damage from his own Fireball (6166)!
Mage's Fireball hit Gourry Gabriev [12407], Lina Inverse [17517]
R.I.P. The Wall

Melee Combat
Gourry Gabriev glanced off of Mage [4414]
Gourry Gabriev draws strength from his weapon! [882]
Lina Inverse's Fireball hit Mage [232380], Gourry Gabriev [79956]
Lina Inverse cries "Teehehe!"
Mage takes damage from his own Fireball (7843)!
Mage's Fireball hit Gourry Gabriev [27118], Lina Inverse [54500]
R.I.P. Mage

Ok, some FB damage scores versus Alucard. FB 850k, amf cast at .25
Some fights Tiny gets to fire twice others only once.

Round 1 - 227 205 288 203 188 170 262 224 230 272 205

Round 2 - 337 204 346

As Phaete said you need to divide the FB with at least 2 minions with intrinsic HP and absorb/reflect the damage with amf/armor.

I think that all DD or maybe just FB/FF will see a change before the end of the month. A quick perusal of the top 20 fire familiars with many score/pr/mpr like this 474,500 / 118,191 / 26,879 shows why.

With little AC and no splitting the single ToA tank is still going to get beaten by FB even if there are changes. Seekers are your only hope.

Rubberduck, those numbers seem really low...

Ignoring Alucards 19 AC, without MgS or ToE the only thing he has to reduce your FB damage is his AMF.

Taking an average of your 11 round 1 results gives an average damage of 225K, on a single target.

Working backwards, removing the 25% reduction from AMF (which I'm sure is applied after ranged penalties, due to the fixed backlash) gives an average round 1 damage of 300K.

Removing the 30% Round 1 penatly gives an average damage of 429K.

429K for a no armoured single target seems very low for an 850K FB.

I know my FB s were dealing over half my level in damage to single targets, I'll look back into my old posts for an example.

But anyway, even at 429K thats about equal to 1.5 / 2 hits from the largest pre nerf archery isn't it?

My mistake! From what I recorded of my own FB damage, it did seem to hit around 1/2 my level.

So 429K sounds about right for an 850K FB.

:)

Another thing I'd like to note, when I made my FB + DM too powerful thread, RD s FB was around 700K. Now it's 850K.

I don't think it will be too long before it's 1 mil and we'll see 500K hits!

:) Let's give a rough estimate at FB being able to increase 100K in level a month. That'll be around 1.350 Mil by xmas (675K hits) and somewhere near 2.550 mil (1.275 Mil hits!) by next xmas.

Last thought for the night...

The largest FF in the game is level 646,020. It's named, so get's about a 4% increase to that, making it around level 671,861.

It should, on average, hit a single (low armoured) minion for around 335,930.

That's why people were complaining a while ago about sticking big familiars on small characters.

Imagine what a low level character (who possible even only trained HP s on one minion) could do, imagine how high they could fight and the rewards they could earn...

With a level 697,203 UC I'm lucky to do 300K's worth of damage in my whole fight, let alone in 1 attack...

You don't need to imagine they are plenty of examples to look at :P

Might be one more if we don't see any further changes this month :)