Relic
August 5 2005 10:47 AM EDT
I just looked at meta-stats for the definition of Beleg's.
It reads:
Base AC 3 -2% magic. Increases ranged damage. Unforgeable.
If I understand ranged damage, this should apply to Archery Hits (bows), Crossbow Hits (xbows), Fireball Hits (FB), and Magic Missile Hits (MM).
Has anyone tested out the Beleg Gloves changelog with FB and/or MM to verify a boost?
I do not have a high enough FB character to test it out with a pair of Beleg's that I own...
Special J
August 5 2005 10:49 AM EDT
I have a big enough fb, send em over ;)
QBJohnnywas
August 5 2005 10:50 AM EDT
'BG now grants extra damage during ranged combat to any weapon'
Jon's own words from the July changelog about archery/BG's. I guess the meta stats should read 'physical ranged damage'.
Special J
August 5 2005 10:51 AM EDT
And I would have to add in;
I doubt it affects magic since it has a -2% as well.
Relic
August 5 2005 10:54 AM EDT
Hmm, the post is still unclear to me because I consider FB and MM to be weapons just as real as a bow... They sure hurt as much or more than a bow.
WeaponX
August 5 2005 10:54 AM EDT
its bows xbows and slings. not DD
bartjan
August 5 2005 11:30 AM EDT
Ranged damage
Melee damage
Magic damage
Beleg only increase one of the above...
Relic
August 5 2005 11:44 AM EDT
Magic Damage happens in Ranged and Melee for different magic spells though...
bartjan
August 5 2005 12:06 PM EDT
Could be, but that does not make it Ranged damage or Melee damage...
Relic
August 5 2005 12:48 PM EDT
Ok, look at it this way.
Fireball is a magic damage type, however in ranged combat, it is both magic damage and ranged damage. In melee the magic damage is both melee damage and magic damage.
I understand how it works and can even understand why. I think the meta-stats and wiki (possibly) need updating so there is no confusion on this point.
I think we just have to accept the CB2 definition of ranged damage which is non-magic.
bartjan
August 5 2005 1:10 PM EDT
Melee damage: damage done with a melee weapon
Ranged damage: damage done with a ranged weapon
Magic damage: damage done by magic.
Fireball is not a weapon, so it just can't be ranged damage.
Undertow
August 5 2005 1:42 PM EDT
There was no confusion... then you made the confusion.
Relic
August 5 2005 1:44 PM EDT
If you have anything to add please post, otherwise...to quote from a favorite movie of mine.....SHUT IT! =)
Undertow
August 5 2005 1:53 PM EDT
I did add something.
I think that ranged damage being ranged (non magic) damage is obvious to anyone who plays the game for more than 2 hours and talk to someone. Which means by the time they can buy BG's, they'll know the difference.
Why add it to the wiki to avoid confusion?
As far as I see you are actually the only point with any confusion over the subject.
I always considered any "weapon" damage to be done with a weapin, I would have counted UC into this but it is never ranged anyway.
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