What to do with my Wall/Tank.... (in General)
My second minion (which happens to be my largest minion by a large amount) is a non-ToA Tank. It has a decent sized Axbow and a large morgul and does a fine amount of damage against non-ToA minions. My back minion is a mage (which happens to be my smallest minion by a large amount), its now starting to do a bit of damage as I've been using my RoE alot these days to bolster its XP. Right now I'm attempting to keep a relatively high AC on my Tank without losing much dexterity and I'm keeping HP/Str/Dex about equal (though I've been lagging on Str a bit lately). I'm not sure that's its being terribly effective.
Basically i have a few paths I could follow. Should I give up with trying to keep my dexterity up? Should I go heavy tank and equip CML and an Adam and boost my AC at the expense of Dexterity? Or should I go the other way and lose the Shadow cloak for an EC, the tulks for EGs and the HoD for an HoE? Should I keep trying to tread the middle ground like I am now? Should I continue boosting my Mage at the expense of my ToE? I can always try to insta up my ToE later. Should I concentrate my XP of my Tank more on HP and Str and less on Dex? (I'm just full of questions aren't I?)
Mages aren't really a concern for me either way... none of them consistently beat me, so really i just need to worry about the other Tanks.
Inferno
August 27 2005 11:54 AM EDT
Get Bloodlust, it has doubled the power of my melee hits..
I'm thinking Bloodlust would defeat the purpose of my ToE aura thingy... and my problems isn't that I don't hit hard enough, its that I don't hit enough...
A couple of questions to ask you.
1) How large is your ToE?
2) Is your axbow able to hit other team's tanks at your level?
I believe your dex is very low as compared to tanks of similar pr. I do not believe that you can hit ToA tanks often unless your + on your axbow is pretty high. You main damage should be coming from your tank so I guess making your tank stronger is the way to go.
Actually, my dex is high for non-ToA tanks at my level with the exception of the few single minion Tanks, i''m hoping my CoC will eventually take them out (eventually)... I can hit people with about 280-300K dex and reasonable sized DBs fairly consistently with the Axbow, and hence hit them with my Morg later.
onlyyouknow
August 27 2005 12:09 PM EDT
From what I see in your battle log, your opponents are either mage teams or weaker tanks. If you want to take on tanks with higher dex and wearing ToA, you will have to boost your dex. So dex-enhancing gears will be good. Your ToE will help to ensure that you last longer so your problem would be hitting more frequently and higher damage dealt out.
QBJohnnywas
August 27 2005 12:10 PM EDT
You kill me consistently. Which isn't nice....lol.
I take out most of the large single tanks around our score level, so you're doing something right tank-wise. I'd reckon stay on the path you're taking and just be patient until your mage is larger. At some point though you're either going to have to up the AC on your team to cut down the damage taken and/or up your tank's dex to take on the tanks on multi teams higher up. They're the ones you're going to have to watch. Not only will those tanks if they're ToA bearing going to be faster than you, they're going to be hiding behind meatshields. And that will spread your CoC's damage a little too much.
As far as your ToE is concerned it's a decent size already. Maybe alternating between RoE and ToE just to keep it topped up occasionally....
QBJohnnywas
August 27 2005 12:17 PM EDT
Oh, and I'd up the HP on your enchanter. To have such low HP on a ToE team is a waste of that ToE aura and will increase your own meatshield level.
Warchild
August 27 2005 12:25 PM EDT
I do not know why I am doing this
If you are going to rely on your tank to do damage then it has to be able to hit. Simply put you need more DX and you need more + on your weapons (specifically the Axbow.) Go with the DX enhancing items and train your DX a little heavier than your ST (I would suggest 1/4 ST then split the rest between HP and DX.)
I would suggest that you continue using the RoE to get more xp (now would be a good time for that) on your Mage. Your CoC is rather weak.
And onlyyouknow who are you calling a "weaker tank"
My battle log isn't reliable, i've been fighting with my RoE consistently for a few days. My ToE has gone from 550K to 556K the past 5 days or so... but my MPR is skyrocketing.
I'm starting to up the HP on the Enchanter... albeit quite slowly. I'm still unconvinced that the extra round a bigger enchanter gives me is worth losing AMF. And I fully intend to boost the AC on my Tank.. once i figure out what I'm doing as far as which armor to use. I have DBs as well, I'm about to get them forged to +51 from +40... but i think i may decide against it, the EBs are doing better for me, i think.
QBJohnnywas
August 27 2005 12:31 PM EDT
Don't forget your ToE is killing 5% of tattoo level of your AMF backlash so you can, at least when ToE'd afford to lose some power to AMF.
another option... which I likely won't take... is to untrain my tank and my mage and switch them, so that my mage is twice the size, and my tank is half the size.
QBJohnnywas
August 27 2005 12:34 PM EDT
Don't switch them! You'll lose both minion's effectiveness! I'd say be patient and just build up your mage. I'm speaking from experience - I did a stupid retrain three weeks ago and I'm only starting to regain the ground I lost!!!!
Inferno
August 27 2005 12:35 PM EDT
Try the RoE on your tank.
I tried the RoE on my tank... i can't beat anyone that way. I lose the Mage Shield, and about 100 AC... not good for anyone. Using it on my mage actually increases my rewards across the board (as i drop PR, but can still take out the bottom of my hitlist) not just the XP on my mage.
QBJohnnywas
August 27 2005 12:39 PM EDT
OK, I've just given you some free XP. I'd say you don't have to worry about your AMF for a while. My mage is sitting on 320k of CoC and you hit him for (.66). That's what kills me - not your tank or mage. Then all you have to do is mop up my other minions. I'd say you can definitely afford to divert XP into your enchanter's HP....
onlyyouknow
August 27 2005 12:42 PM EDT
My tank is quite weak at the moment :p
Think you are pretty okay at the moment. My FB mage did so little damage to you and its a 500k level FB. You just need to strength your tank, pump up the dex. Your tank only hit me once in range.
QBJohnnywas
August 27 2005 12:45 PM EDT
1 more comment - your AMF is number 6 in the game at the moment. You really don't need to worry about losing any power to it lol!
#6 isn't enough to keep up with the single mages :P. Mages are my first priority as I've learned they are far easier to beat. Right now I'm beating all but two that i draw/lose to. When i get enough AMF/HP to beat them, I'll likely play with HP on the enchanter.
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