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[SoV] Shiv [/me Forge Stuff :D] October 17 2005 9:26 PM EDT

Evasion UC Q:

Lets say i got a UC lvl (30)
I should be getting a 10 evasion when i go and fight.
but if i equip a weapon on my UC minion, does it negate my UC bonus? or do i still get it? :p thx

Synco October 17 2005 9:29 PM EDT

You'll still get it. UC overrides melee weapons.

Synco October 17 2005 9:33 PM EDT

My bad, other way around...Melee weapons override UC. I think you'd still get the bonus though.

Besides, you shouldn't even equip a weapon on a UC tank. =P

BrandonLP October 17 2005 9:43 PM EDT

You mean your Evasion bonus? You'll probably still get it, but it's a bit... strange to do that when you could train Evasion and get more out of it.

[SoV] Shiv [/me Forge Stuff :D] October 18 2005 12:07 AM EDT

so...its inconclusive....ill check back tomorrow ;p

BrandonLP October 18 2005 3:29 AM EDT

I don't understand the point of what you're asking, Shiv. If you're going to use a weapon with UC just to get bonus Evasion, then you're going about it the totally wrong way considering you'd get more by training just Evasion.

csraven October 18 2005 4:04 AM EDT

i agree... UC with a weapon defeats the purpose of "unarmed combat"... Evasion is most certainly better, or mabey BL...

sssimmo October 18 2005 4:08 AM EDT

Anyone else hear that? I think there's an echo in here.......here.....here...ere.

[SoV] Shiv [/me Forge Stuff :D] October 18 2005 5:40 AM EDT

well i agree with you there brandon. going straight evasion would prob get me a higher evasion for the same exp spent. Though i have Gi and HGs, and even with a base Unarmed Combat: 62,428/50 (26), i get 1/3 of evasion from 26=8.6.

not much i know. though if all things aside, would i still get that evasion bonus?

and no im not gonna get anal on this, lol

[SoV] Shiv [/me Forge Stuff :D] October 18 2005 4:09 PM EDT

was just reviewing the properties of Gi and noticed this tidbit Grants Evasion equal to one-third of pre-bonus UC. so... first of all 1. on a base UC i with the Gi and HG i wouldn't get any evasion bonus according to that "pre-bonus" statement. 2.my original Q still stands. ;p

BrandonLP October 18 2005 5:47 PM EDT

And my statement still stands. I'm pretty sure you get the evasion bonus.

IndependenZ October 18 2005 6:37 PM EDT

I have to agree with Brandon on this. Your minion won't use his UC to fight, but that doesn't
mean it acts like you never trained it. Therefor, the Evasion should still be in effect.

Unwanted Memories October 18 2005 6:52 PM EDT

I think that with the UC yoru would still get the Evasion bonus, but if you have a weapon/bow you would take the dex penalty associated with it. So is it worth it to you?

[SoV] Shiv [/me Forge Stuff :D] October 18 2005 8:04 PM EDT

um..there is no penalty. unless u or i is mistaken. ;p
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