The new UC (in General)

My UC is now (89), not quite sure what weapon size that works out to be. I was doing a max of 50-55K damage per hit.

Now;

Violet Bier of Sorrows pulverized Eddie Dean [299028]
Violet Bier of Sorrows pulverized Eddie Dean [291096]

Oh.My.God. :D

Whoa, big damage with no weapon! Kudos to you for using UC!

I think I should be afraid, very afraid.

Jigorokano Familiar anyone?

I dropped my HGs and HoE, I now have a strength of 264,030/20 (from ToA only) and Unarmed Combat: 418,729/337,685 (53).

I'm landing blows around 150K per hit.

That's three times more than I used to, with about 25 off my wepaon and 100K or so off my Strength.

Actually I'm hitting around 200K (per hit) on zero AC targets.

I hit Sut for around 200k with what used to be a x100 morg...remind me again how this isn't a bug.

UC is looking better than ever with these changes. If a normal tank can't hit you they can't hurt you.....

:D I tried to hit Sute to see how much my UC did to him and got;

Joe's Fireball hit Violet Bier of Sorrows [1068439]

In the first round. ;)

wow new UC rocks, I tried hitting you to see how much it is... you are making larger damage than my 600k CoC

Violet Bier of Sorrows crushed Little Dot III [233051] x3

versus

ATH-W5000's Cone of cold hit Violet Bier of Sorrows [207492]

This is with my lowering my Str and UC effect from what I used to have. :)

But I really expect it's a bug.

UC's damage has always been a little better than most people realise purely down to multi strikes. But this does seem a little extreme.

And this is me talking, one of UC's biggest fans.... I wonder where it's actually going to end up.....

Oh, with my original stats, I was land ing 300K hits 3 to 4 times per round.

That's more than a level 3 Mil FB! ;)

nice. it was needed anyway.

A bit over the top for only 350K UC, a Pair of HGs/HoE and a ToA though. ;)

Well now my damage is through the roof as well...I dunno what to think.

:( Nov, I had hoped with your post, that my UC damage was bugged. I really hope physical damage as a whole hasn't been increased this much. :(

Well. I'm doing 100k per hit with a 98 UC. That's no different to what I did before......

No Wai!

Who are you attacking? I'm doing more that that with less Str and less UC...

I'm seeing wildly differing results. Against some people I'm hitting for about 120k per strike. But against ToE people I'm hitting for 10% of that. Maybe there's been some tweaking to endurance as well?

Try someone with zero AC. With UC of 43;

Violet Bier of Sorrows crushed Doc [135411]
Violet Bier of Sorrows draws strength from his weapon! [307]
Doc's Guardian Angel smote Violet Bier of Sorrows (513)
Violet Bier of Sorrows crushed Doc [182863]
Violet Bier of Sorrows crushed Doc [153966]

Ok, I just hit the same guy and got around 300k per strike. I really think either UC is buggy now or Jon has adjusted defense and is yet to tell us....

Versus Storage Vault II (Has a ToE on first minion);

Violet Bier of Sorrows pulverized an obsidian crystal [60896]
Violet Bier of Sorrows draws strength from his weapon! [6]
Violet Bier of Sorrows pulverized an obsidian crystal [87031]
Violet Bier of Sorrows pulverized an obsidian crystal [62337]

And 165 AC... ;)

Ok, Negator who I was hitting for 100k per strike, well now I'm hitting for 300k per strike. Something is definitely weird with UC.....lol

Versus Negator;

Violet Bier of Sorrows crunched Guinglain [150805]
Violet Bier of Sorrows draws strength from his weapon! [27037]
Guinglain's Guardian Angel smote Violet Bier of Sorrows (86142)
Violet Bier of Sorrows crushed Guinglain [200619]
Violet Bier of Sorrows draws strength from his weapon! [24424]
Guinglain's Guardian Angel smote Violet Bier of Sorrows (65486)
Violet Bier of Sorrows pulverized Guinglain [162325]


200K with half your UC and 100K less str than you. :)

With a retrain to UC for the day my fightlist still needs sorting out but my target audience has just climbed in score. The top of my list was around 1.3 mill. Now it's 1.5 mill....

And that's without any ranged or VA and a pr of less than 600k!

But look at this: against Thero who has an EC that sends my strength to -49k.

Jack Crow bruised Mokoca [81]
Jack Crow bruised Mokoca [79]


Surely that can't be right? Negative strength and I still do some damage? Although a base weapon does damage even with base ST doesn't it....

Nice catch! :)

I've unequipped most my armour, and my score has climbed by about 150K, more if I could be bothered to hunt out a higher fightlist. :)

mmm. Ranged damage has gone through the roof in some cases. If I had a large ELB on JC I think I'd be able to take on much higher teams that I'm doing right now....

Just to sum up: I'm seeing different results to GL, but this is what I'm seeing.

UC of 98. Hits are varying between 80 when my st is -49k all the way to 350k. I'm getting a lot of low end strikes 20-30k against high AC/ToE teams. The highest end strikes are against naked teams. It would seem that AC/ToE teams are reducing my strikes by as much as 80% in some cases but that's just guesswork and feel not going by the numbers fully. I'm puzzled by ability to do damage with -49k st though....

stuff(lol) happens :)

My score has been able to shoot back up recently using my JKF/VB tank strat :)

Thank goodness for ranged rounds and a huge FB, otherwise I'm pretty sure I would just be crying right now...

/me continues to pump FB and FB only... (really, what is the point of HP?)

Sut you may well find that out once everyone remembers about that ELB they have had lying around.

Shhhhh!!!!

>_<

We really don't want to go back to CB1's days of ELB+BG+Archery domination, do we? ;)

Before the day is out VA will work in ranged again.....lol

Oh no....

I just wanted to see what the changes would do to the Dogs with full gear (especially (113) UC). To reiterate what Borderliner said, I have 2 ELBs and an AxBow in ranged, and the battle lasted 4 rounds, so the only melee round Joe made it to was:

Sensei Boopadoo crushed Joe [267297]
Joe's Guardian Angel smote Sensei Boopadoo (19191)
Sensei Boopadoo pulverized Joe [243427]
Sensei Boopadoo crushed Joe [184542]
Sensei Boopadoo cries "Dogs of War won't capitulate!"

Yes, I expect a shift to shorter battles, all ranged damage. We can probably shorten max number of rounds to 10 now. *smile*

CoC and Decay lose out. :( You'll never be able to last into that 6/7th round to get CoC back up to par to FB/MM damage.

I think we are going to see these damage levels drop down considerably before the day is out, perhaps even as far as what we saw pre change. The only difference being that it will be easier for tanks to keep up with DD damage/ ToE levels in the future.

:) Physical damage needed that. CB had got to the stage the curve and Str and wepaon upgrade costs stunted physical damage when compared to high level DD spells.

I thought that was because physical blows had the multiple hits going for them, but I guess it still works out the same if you compare average damage per round...

Gone back to UC after the testing, back to (43). I'm doing more damage than I used to. about twice as much. Hits around 90/100K. :)

the (UC) number was nerfed during Jon's experiments. Too lazy to read through the post to see if it was mentioned, but mine dropped from (72) to (61). Jon's response was that the (UC) number no longer counts as the damage modifier, and I don't know how it translates into the to-hit on the "weapon".