I have reworked my strat but I need help with DD (in General)


horseguy001 [Blender 2021] August 19 2006 8:22 PM EDT

A little while back I thought I had my NCB figured out but decided to change it since a high GA/AS minion would be a waste since the overall goal is to not get hit. So this is what I have now

ToA Tank training evasion
Decay Mage training HP/Decay
Enchanter training only AMF
Enchanter training 99% EC, and a little haste

The decay is to help with damage, and the exp of the tank and mage is going to be the same, so they will start out together and the two enchanters will be added a bit later. My team right now is almost just like this but I am missing the decay mage. My only problem right now is I am getting ripped apart by mages.

Will that 4th minion help with mages or will they always trounce this team?

My favourite thing right now is my enchanters are surviving the ranged rounds with only 20 HP, because of the big gap in dex cause by my EC and a teeny tiny haste :D

QBJohnnywas August 20 2006 5:03 AM EDT

Your problem is that you have no HP across your team. You cannot evade mages. And at the level you're at the DD spells will be hitting you pretty hard and yes, rip you apart.

If you have a fourth minion training AS, and if you give your team more HP you will fare a lot better. The fourth minion will help in spreading the damage and the AS will help your enchanters in their other role as meatshields.

HP is never a wasted option for spending XP, it will always be useful. And against every foe, not just the mage teams.

horseguy001 [Blender 2021] August 20 2006 11:13 AM EDT

Well I guess I don't need all EC on the one, and I can put haste on the AMF minion. I was just for the level of AS I had, my enchanters were dieing in one hit anyways. Though with 4 minions I guess the effective AS I would have would be much better then for the 3.

QBJohnnywas August 20 2006 11:38 AM EDT

Your strat is great against other tanks. But what you are doing is very specialized the way you are doing it. Another minion training AS, and investing some xp into your minions' HP will make you a better all-rounder. AS would be a better investment than the decay. Decay is great but if you avoid using DD spells you are effectively making your opponents smaller by making their AMF worthless.

For instance you can beat me hands down due to that EC and your evasion. But I can beat some of the mage teams who can beat you. Simply because my team has more HP and so can soak up more damage and get to use the Morg.

If your team isn't lasting to melee often enough then that Morg could be seen as a wasted investment...


As I said before, training HP or AS is never ever a waste of XP. It is an investment that works against all foes.

And as your team climbs higher the less effective your evasion will be against some of the big weapons PTH. And then all they need to do is hit you once....

horseguy001 [Blender 2021] August 20 2006 12:29 PM EDT

What do I do about my crappy damage output then? Any decent sized wall would take me to 25 rounds, so I thought the decay would help cut through the AC.

QBJohnnywas August 20 2006 12:45 PM EDT

What sort of damage are you doing? My morg is a bit bigger than yours but I've got less ST and I'm hitting on average 200k per strike in melee.

If your damage is bad then you need bigger weapons. Invest some money into your weapons. Less than a million will give you another x100 onto your Morg.

QBJohnnywas August 20 2006 12:48 PM EDT

Try and get hold of an ELB as well...or at least a medium sized compound. With the EC you don't really need to add to that with the assassins bow as well. Get yourself more damage in ranged and you'll do better against those mage teams that are troubling you....

horseguy001 [Blender 2021] August 21 2006 1:01 AM EDT

I guess my biggest oversight is exactly what my EC/Axbow combination is for. The EC only needs to be high enough to negate any haste cast for a PL minion, since I need the dex of the tank to get hit every time. Having a big EC is pointless since the Axbow takes care of the dex anyways >_<

Oh well 4 switches on one enchanter later lol Will take a bit to get that exp back :( But now my wins have improved quite a bit with a decent sized AS back on the team.
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