Elven boots vs Displacement Boots (in General)
November 10 2006 1:43 PM EST
On a minion training evasion, would the evasion bonus gained from wearing say a +25 pair of EB be more worthwhile than wearing a pair of +50 DB? +100? Where is the cutoff if any? I know its not linear but is there any way to compare the effectiveness in the two aside from physically swapping them out and battling?
November 10 2006 2:18 PM EST
Well from my exp with my last character, EB were much better for a few reasons.
1. At higher evasion levels, DB don't add that much to PTH reduction, unless they are a BIG pair
2. EB grant you more def dex (through increase to evasion) as well as more trained dex
3. EB grant AC
Maybe at low levels DB would be good, but once evasion got past lvl 60 I found that a good pair of EB worked a lot better for me.
It depends on whether you consider the PR increase from both a factor, along with the cost to upgrade. Displacement boots are very inexpensive to upgrade, and have the lowest PR weight in the game (0.09)
November 11 2006 12:03 AM EST
It also depends on whether you want them to help prevent any magical damage. DBs do nothing against mages, while the EBs provide some protection from mages. In the end, the extra magic protection of the EBs is probably more valuable than any slight advantage the DBs might have over EBs in terms of physical damage.
November 11 2006 12:39 AM EST
EB, definitely, DB would be ok down below, but it'd just cost way too much to keep upgrading.
EB, spend 2 mil for +25 and there you go, DX and 25% to evasion, and 35 AC = 7.35% physical reduction and 5.25% magical.
DB, constant cash sink, completely useless against mages, no reduction.
i always go for EB, you might want EB down below, so tanks can't hit you, but in the end percentages rock, DB isn't percentage-based, so I'd go EB.
November 11 2006 3:33 PM EST
You guys also forget that there are other skills to train besides just evasion (yes I read the "on a minion training evasion...) But the blanket statement that EBs > DBs at ALL times seems a little loony. I mean, DBs on mages are good to prevent double and perhaps triple hits!
But yes, for a minion training evasions, go go go EBs.
November 11 2006 5:32 PM EST
for a minion not training Evasion, its a tank then, is it not? that still pumps up 25% DX, which is quite a lot :)
November 11 2006 6:43 PM EST
Flamey - could be a mage?
November 11 2006 7:04 PM EST
a mage would train evasion, there is no reason not to train evasion, really on a mage.
A PL enchanter? That isn't a tank.
They could choose DB's to evade direct tank attacks or EB's to boost the skill making it so exp can be spent on whatever enchantment they are casting.
Line is not so clear cut at that point.
November 12 2006 3:26 PM EST
you could also have tanks with BL or VA (if they don't have a morg or BTh)
November 12 2006 3:35 PM EST
I have a tank with BL and VA and I find EB are infinetly more useful then DB. I also wouldn't mind a pair of EB on my evasion minion as well, to get a +46% to evasion (with AoF)for <5 mil bucks. Throw in an EC and EG and things get even better...I would love to see 332,000/200,000 right now :D
Though the original post did say on a minion training evasion ;)
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