hire costs and pr (in General)


Underage Drinking [Battle Royale] December 1 2006 9:55 PM EST

at PR 1,152,290 of a SFBM, to hire my 2nd minion the price is topping at just over 18 million CBD

for that much, how much PR do you think i will get?

TheHatchetman December 1 2006 9:57 PM EST

you'd prolly get near 6m XP, when i train 60k at a time (5k hit points, keeps numbers even...) I get a little over ~1600 MPR... so at that rate, you should gain roughly 160,000 MPR... I think...

Hyrule Castle December 1 2006 9:58 PM EST

my guess is if thats the high cost...384k mpr

Sir Leon [Soup Ream] December 1 2006 9:58 PM EST

The same amount the MPR would add?

QBOddBird December 1 2006 9:58 PM EST

probably closer to 100k MPR.

Hyrule Castle December 1 2006 10:04 PM EST

i thought for getting the higher minion you get 1/3 the total amount of all exp trained... or something like that... so would that not be 1/3 of his mpr (which is effected by exp trained) making it 384k like i said?

48Zach December 1 2006 10:37 PM EST

you get 1/3 of the exp. as you spent. exp.. if you spend 9k youll get 3k exp. if u buy the top minion... lower costing minion gets 1/5 of the exp.

Karn [Hell Blenders] December 2 2006 12:05 AM EST

Is this 1/3 of total experience of all minions or the average experience between all the minions.

jayuu December 2 2006 12:37 AM EST

The cost of the higher priced minion is based on 1/3 of the XP of your largest minion. Your new minion will have XP equal to 1/3 of the hiring cost. Your 18mil CBD minion will have about 6mil XP. Since the amount of XP required for 1 point of MPR increases as your character's MPR increases, I'd guess you're probably at around 55-60 XP/MPR now. Your new 6mil XP minion will probably add a bit over 100k to your character's MPR.

TheHatchetman December 2 2006 3:04 AM EST

any thoughts on my comment? maybe we should start a pool. Bet on how much it'll add... :-)

chuck1234 December 2 2006 4:02 AM EST

its a math calculation, HM; not a random occurrence that you can bet on it; the person skilled in maths would crack this in next to no time.

Hyrule Castle December 2 2006 7:10 AM EST

i don't see how your guys' math adds up in the least. its 1/3 of total exp. He has 1.1m mpr... not 18m exp... 1.1m mpr is well over 18m experience....


so therefore wouldnt u just take his mpr and multiply by 1.3
ruffly...

Zoglog[T] [big bucks] December 2 2006 9:04 AM EST

No you wouldn't, experience does not add to MPR linearly, it depends on your current MPR, I've been getting less and less MPR for my exp as time has gone on, for 25k exp I'm getting around a couple of thousand MPR each time, at most.

Zoglog[T] [big bucks] December 2 2006 9:06 AM EST

actually, that is way too high an estimation, I actually think it's somewhere between 500-750MPR each time I train around 25k experience.

QBsutekh137 December 2 2006 10:05 AM EST

You will get exactly one-third of whatever the cost is in experience.

Find someone with a spell or stat that unlearns for around 6 million experience, and that is roughly the level of spell/stat you would be able to train on the new minion.

When I spent around 28 million on a minion, he was able to train ~730K level DM.

As for what kind of MPR increase that is, it is not easy to say. Somewhere around 1/9th or current MPR would be my guess. I went from around 1.63 million MPR to 1.81 million MPR, which is just slightly more than an 11% increase (about 1/9th).

Kong Ming December 2 2006 10:07 AM EST

My character's HP untrains for about 6 million so you will get about 500k for trained experience.

Xenko December 2 2006 10:42 AM EST

The problem is that the higher you are, the more XP it takes to get an increase of 1 MPR. Give me a few months and I will have the data (in theory). I have data up to ~165k MPR atm (~4.5 million XP trained I think... I'm not on FF atm so I can't check).

Underage Drinking [Battle Royale] December 2 2006 8:54 PM EST

well at my pr, if i untrained all skills i would get just over 50million xp, to pay 18 million to get a char 1/3 my pr, almost 400k would offer under 20million xp, not cheap

Underage Drinking [Battle Royale] December 3 2006 8:46 AM EST

would it be worth the 18million to get a second minion at this pont orrrr start over?

Kong Ming December 3 2006 9:04 AM EST

Well, what do you intend to do with the new minion?
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