PL, bug or how its supposed to work? (in General)


QBPit Spawn [Abyssal Specters] March 19 2007 5:48 PM EDT

Round1:
Mem takes damage from his own Fireball (13893)!
Mem's Fireball hit Shagrath [28983], Dimebag [31282], Ihsahn [11017], Quorthon [20383]
Ihsahn absorbs damage [28983]
Ihsahn absorbs damage [31282]
Ihsahn absorbs damage [20383]

Round 2:
Mem takes damage from his own Fireball (15878)!
Mem's Fireball hit Shagrath [48147], Dimebag [35783], Ihsahn [16047], Quorthon [21370]
Ihsahn absorbs damage [48147]
Ihsahn absorbs damage [35783]
Ihsahn absorbs damage [21370]
Shade's familiar takes damage from his own Fireball (13722)!
Shade's familiar's Fireball hit Shagrath [31455], Dimebag [31556], Ihsahn [13542], Quorthon [15356]
Ihsahn absorbs damage [31455]
Ihsahn absorbs damage [31556]

Round 3:
Mem takes damage from his own Fireball (17863)!
Mem's Fireball hit Shagrath [51338], Dimebag [49273], Ihsahn [7357], Quorthon [15920]
Ihsahn absorbs damage [5733]
Mem cries "Memonites! Attack!!!!"
Shade's familiar takes damage from his own Fireball (15683)!
Shade's familiar's Fireball hit Shagrath [28172], Dimebag [32862], Quorthon [14949]

Round 4:
Mem takes damage from his own Fireball (19848)!
Mem's Fireball hit Shagrath [50096], Dimebag [58319], Ihsahn [19721], Quorthon [22842]
Mem cries "Memonites! Attack!!!!"
R.I.P. Shagrath, Dimebag, Ihsahn

yes i have TsA so the PL minion regenerates after each round and is why it doesn't die. However I have a second PL minion which doesn't absorb any during that period. Like in Round 3 when the first PL minion doesnt absorb any in the second attack, yet the third PL minion doesn't absorb anything either. Since the first PL minion isn't absorbing anything, shouldn't the second one start absorbing dmg since the minions are taking dmg?

Nerevas March 19 2007 6:06 PM EDT

This is more of a limitation of having multiple PL minions.. This is what is happening:

Your 1st PL minion absorbs until its dead. It would have gone slightly negative in hp, but then TSA brings it back. So it lives through the round.

The very next round that same minion is still designated as the PL minion to use at it has the highest trained. However, the fireball hits to your first 2 minions fall under one of the PL rules that "if the PL minion cannot absorb enough to keep the originally hit minion alive, it won't absorb anything". Then the fireball hits him, he dies, then the only remaining minion is your last PL minion.

So this is caused by 3 of the rules to PL-

1) the living minion with the highest trained PL will always be used
2) the PL minion can only absorb what his current health will allow
3) the PL minion will not absorb a blow if he cannot absorb enough to allow the attacked minion to live

This is currently a limitation. I don't know if its necessarily a bug. In order for it to change, Jon would have to code it to allow multiple PL minions to overtake each other's priority in absorbing blows where the other minion would fail because of its limitations.

QBPit Spawn [Abyssal Specters] March 19 2007 6:12 PM EDT

i know whats happening, but is it supposed to. for example in round 3, when the first PL minion is considered dead and doesnt absorb anything, why doesnt the second one absorb?

{CB1}Lukeyman March 19 2007 6:23 PM EDT

That's my char!!! ^_^

QBPit Spawn [Abyssal Specters] March 19 2007 6:25 PM EDT

he could just make it so if a minion takes dmg its absorbed, higher one absorbs first. Then if the first one doesnt cover it the second one absorbs whatever is left over. that should fix it imho

Nerevas March 19 2007 7:30 PM EDT

I think its more of a bug with targeting minions that die and live again via TSA. They seem to go into a kid of black hole where they don't get retargeted immediately but are still considered alive for purposes of say PL.

QBPit Spawn [Abyssal Specters] March 19 2007 9:07 PM EDT

well, i think if you have 2 PLs, and if the first doesnt absorb it all, the second one should kick in because the initial minion is still receiving damage. that would also fix what i said above as well

Duke March 20 2007 12:58 AM EDT

I think there is similar issue exist with VA.There is no way that JON could solve that without a major change to PL.
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