Program That Lets You Control State-of-Mind!?!?! (in Off-topic)

MissingNo March 21 2007 9:30 PM EDT

Now, I thought this was something straight out of science fiction. Hell, I've been toying around and saying that in the future, they're going to be able to convert drugs into radio waves that we could pick up with helmets.

Turns out someone already beat me to this idea, and although it's not radio waves, it's really close to my idea. My friend introduced it to me like half an hour ago and I'm getting ready to try it. The program called I-Doser says you can simulate different moods and different drugs through their auditory beats that do something to your brainwaves. :-\

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] March 21 2007 9:37 PM EDT

"Recreational Simulations 1 is a collection of 4 doses: Marijuana, Peyote, Opium and Cocaine..."

ROFL, wow!

GO PATS March 21 2007 9:44 PM EDT

I had something like this many years ago, basically flashing or static colors and beeping... lots and lots of random annoying beeping... Headaches abound.

MissingNo March 21 2007 9:49 PM EDT

You can listen to a 30 second sample right off the website. It seems pretty soothing, and they say all of their tracks are soothing.

GO PATS March 21 2007 9:53 PM EDT

I'd just listen to some Pink Floyd if'n I were you... can't go wrong there... "Echoes" in specific is one of the best songs (and the first song that Pink Floyd really started experimenting with sound, as opposed to their previously jazzy lyrics driven sound)... also it's like 22 minutes long.

Nerevas March 21 2007 10:20 PM EDT

Some people have success with them, most don't. At best they'll put you in a light floaty state similar to what you could reach in meditation and at worst they'll give you a terrible headache or make your eardrums hurt. Basically, they're not going to put your mind in any state you couldn't reach on your own naturally. And I can guarantee you they're not going to be able to produce anything you'd get from mind altering chemicals which are a big no no btw =)

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] March 21 2007 10:23 PM EDT

how do the "doses" even work? You listen to it once and it deletes itself out of the program (PC version), and what about the CD?

GO PATS March 21 2007 10:25 PM EDT


True or False?
Music can make you happy.
Music can make you aggressive.
Music can make you sad.

So, if you said true to all of those, which I can't imagine you did not do, why can't music make you high? If music can make those other chemicals shoot off in your brain, why can't they shoot off endorphins or opiates (or whatever the related chemical in your brain is called)?

MissingNo March 21 2007 10:27 PM EDT

It's not just music. It's specific "auditory pulses" that are released differently in each ear at the same time.

Nerevas March 22 2007 12:57 AM EDT

Moosh, you're right. There are plenty of mind states that may be brought on by things like music, or other audible/visual stimulation. I would call these states of mind naturally occurring. And while it could be said that any given mind state or feeling is being brought on in part by chemicals in the brain, they are within the limits of what your body/brain is capable of naturally producing. That's where "substances" stand out.

MissingNo March 22 2007 6:03 AM EDT

I tried one. It made me feel quite like what the actual drug felt like, at least, that's what I remember before being knocked out. The doses are 45 minutes long, so it's hard to lie in bed with your eyes closed in the dark with boring sounds in your ear without falling asleep.

QBJohnnywas March 22 2007 6:33 AM EDT

Unless you've experienced the drugs themselves beforehand, how are you to know if it's working or not?

And if you have experienced the drugs themselves are you actually experiencing a high, or a memory of a high?

MissingNo March 22 2007 7:10 AM EDT

It's not a high completely, but you can feel the same general effects. Like waves throughout your body and brain and feeling relaxed.

AdminQBVerifex [Serenity In Chaos] March 22 2007 12:10 PM EDT

I wonder if those experiences can be simulated through the use of this online radio station?

Soma FM - Click on Tag's Trance Trip, Dronze, Cliqhop IDM or any of the others. I know when I listen to those, I feel good. My favorite right now is Secret Agent though. :)

AdminG Beee March 22 2007 12:23 PM EDT

I read the thread title and thought you were talking about CNN.

MissingNo March 22 2007 2:28 PM EDT

It's not the exact same thing as listening to music. Each earphone or headphone plays a different sound into each ear and they mix Like the dose I tried for marijuana, one earphone was playing like static noise and the other one was playing vibrational waves.

Flamencorpse March 23 2007 12:34 AM EDT

lol thats what some stoner rock/metal bands like Kyuss and YOB do in there more lucid and spacey songs. as in, have most (like 70%) of the lo-end bass or distortion in one side of the head phones, and the other portion of the bass and the higher tuned lead guitars in the other side. with the vocals and rhythm guitars laid on top in the production. A band called Sons of Otis do the same kinda thing but with, what sounds like 3 distorted bass guitars, REALLY lo-end stuff, and thats trippy :D

MissingNo March 23 2007 12:54 AM EDT

But this isn't music.

Flamencorpse March 23 2007 1:03 AM EDT

i never said it was. but its the same effect.
it does not matter much, but, find any song by a band called Sunn 0))), it is CONSIDERED music (it is an established band, does tours, signed to a label etc.) but in reality, it sounds like a washing machine. so where is the line drawn?

MissingNo March 23 2007 1:14 AM EDT

As said by "The art of arranging sounds in time so as to produce a continuous, unified, and evocative composition, as through melody, harmony, rhythm, and timbre." This I-Doser thing isn't melodic (that might not even be a word), harmonic, or rhythmic.
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