is WoW's days numbered? (in Off-topic)

now i know from the get go, there are some that are always going to defend blizzard, i like blizzard but WoW is getting old, and blizzard has other things for us to wait for(SC2, diablo), but ....

darkfall

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purely this is up to everyones own opinion, but i think this game will thrive for the simple fact that there are over 500 skills and 500spells, the land is open and free and there are no restrictions on how you mold your character or where you take them at your own risk, reminds me of 'asheron's call' and the building of cities like 'Ultima'

andyproductive comments on this game, other than by wow flamers?

good overview

It doesn't really matter how many spells there are in the game and how big the world is, people will get bored of it eventually and quit.

If they make it free to play with the option to buy things upgrades/land/items etc.. it may have a chance.

A good role-playing community is key for keeping a game full of steady players... WoW has none of that, being full of 8 - 14 year olds... EQ1 had a huge RP community, when it first came out, that's where I really fleshed out Moosh and got ideas for a lot of stories... On the other hand, I know of amazing games (I mean amazing) that are so strict about their RPing that it takes away from the game, and drives newer (however talented at RP) players away...

I miss EQ1... when I came into a zone, I would shout, "MOOOOOSH!!!" and half the people in the zone would shout it back to me... I was 50 - 3 in duels (always opponents my level or higher) and my three losses were to level 50's (when I was 13 - 20... basically some great RP sessions), and this was back when a duels results were broadcast to every player in game... so every day I would be broadcast onto peoples screens as the winner of a duel... and I shouted my name every time I went in a zone (unless I had just been there, of course), so honestly, most of the people on my server knew my name (and I never got past lvl 22, I RP'd so much...) But I was an Ogre Shadow Knight with 138 INT (which doesn't really help at all, but was great for RP!)

Yeah so anyway, WoW is bad, and I won't be sad if it disappears into the history books as a follower of better games.

Yeah wow got me bored after 1 month.

And it costs soo much money to play.

Also It takes a long time to get good and when im on the pc i always go to CB first and i was still doing so obviously while playing WoW only got to play it 30 mins a day lol.

The thing about Darkfall.. its been in production for several years to the point most people have given up hope on it. However, that can really go both ways. Either they're taking their time to truly smooth out the game and deliver a masterpiece, or they really don't know what they're doing and the game will be a buggy mess when its finally released. Experience has shown its more often the latter with games, but I'm hopeful that's not the case because the game promises so much. If it can actually deliver a world that's a hybrid of UO+AC's best features, it could very will be the best mmorpg for a long time.

This game doesn't seem to have a hook and is playing the odds with what I'd consider a bad presentation while hoping what-can-be-done is better than what-should-be-done. Yeah they're greedy. The textures and models are awful, which Might play to the community's advantage, so might get those EQ1/HL1 types playing. Let's be honest graphics matter too much these days. Still not a right to ugly stick good pixels. Several years with the same 3D model with the result being a 4th rate patchwork pigeon-drow. The tree can't get my approval it's that bad.
Can't help but notice the rather evil nature of the game, war cities & pirates, which can directly predict the type of ppl who will not only play, but over play to abuse those around them. So how much fun can you have with all these nifty features when 14 yr old no lifes come along every now and then to ruin it a good time. Dislike PvP in general(CB PvP Rules!), as it is in every browser game now, and loath games that want to be PvP heavy. I expect mucho problemo from such games. Expect the same player turn out as you get in other games you got tired of. Had to nail community for that's what makes up an mmo. Nice ppl are not as likely to play nasty RYL looking games like this.
FPS aspect looks fast and possibly akward. More akward with the RTS add on I'm sure. If this could be Battlezone with dwarves I'd fork over a franklin. That dream won't happen and it's likely to drown more dreams on launch. Likely cave on a few issues beforehand. So don't hold you're breathe when a game promo claims to be so revolutionary as if others haven't tried and failed in this same RPG/RTS undertaking. What they are doing with skills/spells and housing are the most intriguing areas as you pointed out. Which they should be promoting more in video than ships and the dragon off the Rush cover. Know a handful of WoW players, which are absolute poon screaming morons, so yeah my views are basically any mmo hyped will be corrupted. Then the next claim to fame nxt-gen-mmo comes, gets boring, and the cycle continues. GW's big plug was being Really free for the casual gamer. WoW was for the hardcore with paypal. If this heap wants to blow the doors to the fences. Should stick to it's freedom montra, and go no p2p, you'll have that revolution in an insane bum rush which might be more entertaining than city building snipers for the first 3 weeks. Happy thoughts.
Terrible marketing debt, below par char designs, the menu system look bad as well, freedom seems to be selling the game with PvP possiblities, having to worry about what's happening at the walls, one can imagine the evening lag. Hopefully the coding teams do awesome and can get better contracts or better management. Giving this game a generous 7.4/10 which can go two ways.

WoW's days are not numbered.

It caters brilliantly to the market, luring in old school RPGers and those new to the Genre alike. This is both a good and bad thing.

People will leave when new titles come along, and new people will join.

Plus you'd be surprised at the amount of players over the age of 30 WoW has.

It's easing old wargamers into the MMO market.

i sure hope so, i wanna get less lag at my weekend lan ata friends

Plus there is no playable ogre race... I can't RP as a Tauren nearly as fun as with an ogre...

Everything loses it popularity eventually. With WoW, it'll just take a lot longer, possibly even a decade or more.

so the general concensus is that WoW still dominates, well then what do you think that will topple a blizzard game? star craft 2 or another diablo? well they own that, no mmo is perfect they are always being improved. as darkfall is concerned is some are staying away over the fear of being raped, then thats what wow 'care bears' you with. i dont know im kinda for trying something this open, i guess the development of the quality of game play purely depends on the players and how they help or not help everyone. with every mmo the user base always have some that are willing to aid others, thats human nature, but yea 14yr olds will get on there are screw around, they can thats the beauty of the game, me i play for the content. if its dry then ill leave. im out ill rant more later.....

Then what are you saying? That WoW will continue to thrive forever and never lose its popularity, despite the fact that technology is being constantly improved, which means that more and more MMOs will emerge?

Before I used to say I hated WoW because of its general stupid community. But since my last WoW rant I've played the game, and to me, the game isn't much better than any other MMORPG I've played, which is maybe why I'm on CB2. It's interesting for awhile ("Hey, awesome, I'm a Night Elf Druid and I can change into a panther or a bear!") but to me, that interest died in a few short days.

I'd much rather a NEW blizzard game, any other sequel or part to than WoW.

Bring on Starcraft 2, Diablo III or Warcraft 4 any day.

I have played WoW now for over a year, and I feel it just deponds on what you consider fun. I'm not a huge RPG player. I enjoy the group of friends I have made in the guild I am in. I'm in an adult guild that only allows 21 and up players and mostly a family type atmosphere. We have a Teamspeak client and website forum that we post on all the time and talk all the time as we play. The game continues to build and that is why I think it will last. The true WoW player gets their toon to 70 and then that is when the true fun of the game begins with the end game content. About the time that you are finishing up with that there will for sure be a new update or expansion to add more content. This game seriously seems to have no end in sight. Don't trust me ... Trust the 8 million + subscribers around the world paying 15$ a month to play the game. :)