has anyone else noticed that the BA cost hasn't been increasing my cost has stayed at 1533 for a few days now.
Talion
May 4 2007 10:12 AM EDT
Mine has been increasing... I think. It costs $300 more per BA than the last time I looked, which was just after the new BA rewards system was put into place.
Mine jumped from 300 ish to 667 after the change. Normally it should have doubled the cost, and that is exacly what happened, save for a couple CB$. BUT, since the change, I must have climbed my char at least 50k-75k mpr more, and my BA cost is still 667. Is that what you meant, Popsicle Man Supreme?
Flamey
May 4 2007 10:28 AM EDT
Mine's moved, since the change it was 801 I think, now its 821.
QBsutekh137
May 4 2007 10:31 AM EDT
BA cost does not increase a lot between the 10, 9, 6, 7, 6 BA accrual change steps. That's why having a huge MPR does not make forging that much more efficient (at least not as much as people initially thought, I think.) Forging "power" is directly related to cost per BA.
From the thread "Forging and MPR" a couple weeks back:
Machiavelli wrote:
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New Formula:
I played around with some data attempting to factor in regeneration rate and arrived at the following:
BA Cost * Regen Rate = 274.6*(MPR^0.169)
Or
BA Cost = (274.6*(MPR^0.169))/Regen Rate
On non-data set tests it appears to be within 1 CB on the BA cost.
Please test away folks!
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Okay. Me+math=0. Though that equation was correct...
Anyways, then do you mean that the fact that my BA cost has not increased from 680k mpr to 770k mpr is normal? That is all I found strange really.
And when I mean not increased, that means not a single CB$ more.
QBsutekh137
May 4 2007 12:43 PM EDT
It might seem strange, but I believe it. You won't see a jump until you kick down to the next BA accrual level.
I'll take your word for it then :)
That seems to be about right, I noticed a big jump in cost when I went from 9/20 to 8/20 but since then I don't think it's gone up by more then a few CB$, if even that.
Lochnivar
May 4 2007 4:01 PM EDT
Machiavelli wrote:
==============================
New Formula:
I played around with some data attempting to factor in regeneration rate and arrived at the following:
BA Cost * Regen Rate = 274.6*(MPR^0.169)
Or
BA Cost = (274.6*(MPR^0.169))/Regen Rate
On non-data set tests it appears to be within 1 CB on the BA cost.
Please test away folks!
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Machiavelli amends:
The above formula is based on a 10 min regen rate, you'll probably have to multiply the BA cost by 2 or divide the regen rate by 2 (not both!) to get the new numbers.
Lochnivar
May 4 2007 4:12 PM EDT
Curse you PMS!
It appears the change in regen rate may have diminished the formula I had previously derived.
If I could have a variety of people post (or CM if you're secretive) their MPR (fully trained) and BA cost as well as regen rate I'll take another crack at it.
Thanks for your help~!
MPR 438,850 (I have 11 exp, that won't matter will it?) BA cost 1489 8/20 refresh
QBsutekh137
May 4 2007 4:50 PM EDT
MPR: 2,537,582
BA Cost: $1094
Accrual: 6/10
No Bonus.
(Bonus characters would need to post their percentage bonus, otherwise numbers will be off).
Mpr: 775,581
BA cost: 667, and I am at 8/20 presently
I don't have a bonus either, unfortunately :)
yeah thats exactly whats happening Ashilizator cost isnt increasing when my MPR is going up
QBJohnnywas
May 4 2007 5:49 PM EDT
Funnily enough my BA costs have been at 1533 since the change. That's with a 90k MPR increase as well.....
It's not that I have a problem with cheap BA..... :P
Even though it may be normal, I'm feeling like I cheat right now, heh.
Mikel
May 4 2007 6:05 PM EDT
I haven't noticed it, but in a way it seems fair since we aren't getting all of our ba. I got just 1 the other day on my 20 minute interval instead of 6.
Yukk
May 4 2007 7:29 PM EDT
MPR: 1,437,092
BA Cost: 860
Rate 7/20
Flamey
May 4 2007 7:37 PM EDT
MPR: 1,077,961
Cost: $821
Rate: 7/20
No bonus.
I find that strange 400k MPR higher than me is only $39 more. Is that right?
MPR = 1,121,974
Same refresh and BA cost as flamey.
Looks like the BA costs are stepped... that's strange.
MPR=1,325,393
BA Cost=840
BA Regen=7/20
Lochnivar
May 5 2007 3:00 AM EDT
Grr, Jon's changes to regeneration have complicated the MPR:BA cost relationship it seems.
A few more data samples would be appreciated.
Thanks to those who have helped so far.
MPR: 178,134
BA Cost: 1,143
BA Regen: 10/20
Shelingar
May 6 2007 8:31 AM EDT
MPR: 1,267,153
BA Cost: 840
BA Regen: 7
Lochnivar
May 6 2007 10:33 AM EDT
Anybody posting stats who is on an NCB or NUB please include your bonus %.
Last Gasp
May 6 2007 12:47 PM EDT
803,840
$667
8/20
Lochnivar
May 7 2007 4:28 AM EDT
Well here is my revised formula please test it out
BA Cost = 997.1*(M39^0.126)/Regen Rate
Oh, and it would be best if different data samples were used than the ones posted in the forums.
As an interesting note the NUB's appear to get a 'bonus' whereby BA cost is only 132% higher while rewards are 142% higher.
Lochnivar
May 7 2007 12:39 PM EDT
Correction:
The formula should read:
BA Cost = 997.1*(MPR^0.126)/Regen Rate
I'd like to see how this holds up to some tests.
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