Safari for Windows (in Off-topic)
June 13 2007 10:48 AM EDT
I don't use Safari much even on my Mac, but I downloaded it for Windows to see how it ran CB.
It does pretty well. Everything works and is very snappy. Safari is annoying in the parts where keyboard access doesn't work, like training and typing "M" in a selected drop-down NOT bringing up "Max" (though keystrokes do work in the forge list...interesting). Anyway, I expect that because of its heritage, Apple will have to get a little better about the keyboard-driven aspects of Safari.
One nifty thing is that you can resize larger text fields in the browser. For example, the chatmail box on the user page is given a little pull-triangle in the bottom right that you can use to make the box bigger. Other page elements are shifted real-time, as if the designer of the page had simply made the box bigger before rendering the page. A nice touch, almost too simple not to have been done before (has it?)
I am pretty sure Safari isn't twice as fast like Steve Jobs would like to exaggerate about, but it seems pretty good for a beta, and competition in browsers is good! Folks who do more gritty browser manipulations can tell us how Safari does as far as standards, etc. It would be nice to see Apple really standing behind "open-standard" development, but I don't usually hold my breath on stuff like that. *smile*
scroll wheel mouse didn't work for me...
June 13 2007 11:54 AM EDT
Scroll-wheel mouse appears to be working (and scrolling) fine for me.
June 13 2007 5:44 PM EDT
So do you think Safari has the potential to be better than Firefox?
I don't see Safari replacing Firefox anytime soon. Even on my mac I haven't touched Safari in months.
safari is quite terrible imo ;)
June 13 2007 7:47 PM EDT
What browsers do all you guys use mainly, not just for CB?
June 13 2007 9:59 PM EDT
June 13 2007 10:48 PM EDT
Opera is by far the best browser out there. The only reason I use firefox is for the large number of extensions that I have that make browsing much easier for me. If I had all those extensions for opera, I would switch over in a heartbeat.
I also tried Safari/win, it used even more memory than Firefox. No, thanks.
June 14 2007 7:18 AM EDT
Firefox all the way.
June 14 2007 7:27 AM EDT
June 14 2007 7:29 AM EDT
Haha, I had that one saved too. From G I believe.
June 14 2007 8:07 AM EDT
Yes OB, a little originality please ;)
June 14 2007 10:46 AM EDT
I use Firefox on Mac and Windows.
I imagine Safari will do OK once it isn't beta any more (as far as memory, anyway). Firefox just has a lot of great momentum and cool add-ons/skins. It's quality product. Not that Safari sucks, but it seems to be wanting to be very "Appley" for no reason. Steve Jobs, go ahead and try to do something in Windows, but make the app at least TRY to look like a Windows app. iTunes was OK -- every multimedia player looks like a mutant from outer space. But this is a browser. Stop trying to make everything look slick and cool (but less functional, less of what we are used to).
June 14 2007 1:02 PM EDT
I don't think Steve Jobs plays CB.
June 14 2007 1:13 PM EDT
Oh, you'd be surprised. Steve Jobs listens to everything I say.
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