Are things supposed to work this way? (in General)


Flamey September 29 2007 7:40 PM EDT

I've done with my complaining for now, this is more asking about the mechanics of the game.

Okay, my situation currently is that I'm in 7/20, halfway through, my highest Challenge Bonus is -1% and lowest -6%. If I was to be 1.8 mil MPR and have a higher PR than I do now, I wouldn't be getting penalised fight rewards.

Now, the problem I think is there aren't enough players near the top? That's why I have to get a negative challenge bonus. Saying this, doesn't the threshold need to be changed then?

Why should someone attempting to get to the top be penalised while those at the top aren't? It doesn't make sense to me.

Basically, *if* I hit 6/20, I instantly get a bonus to my fight rewards by about 5%.

So, Jon, people, is this how it's supposed to work?

Nerevas September 29 2007 7:44 PM EDT

Well, right now you get 16.667% more battles than someone at 6ba refresh. So, I think that makes up for it.

Flamey September 29 2007 7:45 PM EDT

Right.

Well, I can't get all my BA, so for people in 6/20 it's easier for them to spend all their BA, which is more valuable than mine. So, it's easier to get all BA and they don't get penalised rewards.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] September 29 2007 7:50 PM EDT

Plus reward increase when your BA regen goes down.

More people now are experiencing the problems those placed 21-30 (or lower) had.

It's just more evident now, or I sohuld say more people are vocal about it, as its now effects them.

Ranger and I have both expresed ideas to solve this (and the bonuses) already. ;)

Flamey September 29 2007 7:52 PM EDT

Care to share? Because I can't remember.

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] September 30 2007 1:33 AM EDT

i think it was these two threads in which alternatives were discussed.

http://www.carnageblender.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=002BaU

http://www.carnageblender.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=002BqM'

it definitely sucks to be on the edge of "no penalty" zone, where do we stop it though? someone will always be on that cusp. i am not saying, "quit whining" it is just that there does have to be a line somewhere.

Flamey September 30 2007 2:27 AM EDT

I haven't read the threads yet.

I think it should crossover when your entire fightlist hits negatives, it just seems unfair to be in negative and work even harder.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] September 30 2007 5:43 AM EDT

"it definitely sucks to be on the edge of "no penalty" zone, where do we stop it though? someone will always be on that cusp. i am not saying, "quit whining" it is just that there does have to be a line somewhere."

Unless you get away with it totally, like the ideas in those two threads talk about. ;)

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] September 30 2007 5:45 AM EDT

My suggestion was;

http://www.carnageblender.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=002BqO

Kong Ming September 30 2007 5:55 AM EDT

That's one of the reasons why I sold my character and start a NCB. Its more fun because I can get 100% challenge bonus. With the current system, it gets boring once you reach 7/20 BA.

horseguy001 September 30 2007 6:10 AM EDT

Same here.

As I see it, I have a much better chance of hitting 6/20 if I get in 66% of my BA with this NCB. It is just not going to happen with the Space Knights. Ever :D

Flamey September 30 2007 8:49 AM EDT

I like the forever bonus thing. And GL's idea.

The other thread was more a clan thing, which all of a sudden decided to die down.

I'm just wondering, why do ideas like that, that get agreement from everyone who posted in it, and practically have no flaws, don't even get a response from Jon? I mean, a simple "no" would be suffice, if things weren't left so open-ended, I'm sure a lot of these things wouldn't be repeated.

Like when people suggest wands/staves, people respond saying "Jon hates them, they'll never get introduced".

sooka September 30 2007 11:14 AM EDT

Did Jon even see the post or hear about the ideas? Did anyone send him a quick CM asking him to check out this idea? Just a thought, but maybe some threads slip his notice.

sooka September 30 2007 11:25 AM EDT

actually to keep his box uncluttered, maybe if an admin is involved with a good change discussion they could bring it to Jon's attention. Or if one isn't... have them read over it then they talk to, Jon. Trickle up effect >;)

QBBast [Hidden Agenda] September 30 2007 12:34 PM EDT


Sooka, I hope you aren't planning a career in plumbing.

QBOddBird September 30 2007 2:34 PM EDT

" Well, right now you get 16.667% more battles than someone at 6ba refresh. So, I think that makes up for it.

Flamey, September 29 7:45 PM EDT
Right.

Well, I can't get all my BA, so for people in 6/20 it's easier for them to spend all their BA, which is more valuable than mine. So, it's easier to get all BA and they don't get penalised rewards."

I don't think Jon accounts for this part ----> "Well, I can't get all my BA" <---------- and shouldn't have to.

And I like GL's idea, and think everyone should use hyperlinks.

Flamey September 30 2007 8:02 PM EDT

I don't mean it in a sense that, I don't want to work, I just want to be there. I mean it in the sense, that as you grow its easier to play, isn't it? Right now, as soon as you hit 6/20 its paradise, less BA to miss, no penalty for fighting down you can wear a ton of armour.

I'm sure if I was in 6/20, I'd miss very few BA, if anyone knows how long it takes to regen? 8 hours something? I'd usually get the BA that I miss from sleep/school.

Adminedyit September 30 2007 8:23 PM EDT

7/20 ~ 7.5 hours for a full set of BA

6/20 ~ 8.5 hours for a full set of BA

So it's basicly 21 BA you're missing if you log on every 8.5 hours at 7/20

Flamey September 30 2007 8:24 PM EDT

Yes, I'd miss very few BA from that, less than 50 maybe, less than 100 definitely.
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