Multi?? (in Public Record)


NotSuitablForChildren [Yeeeaahh.................] October 11 2007 3:14 PM EDT

I was looking at my clan Bunny Crew when I noticed that all three members Ianthehigharcher, cypher, and OMG hadn't logged on in about a week. Then I noticed that two of the chars were created the same day. Then I noticed a lot of one sided transfers. Then I was informed that they were all from the same IP. Could a full admin please investigate this?

A Lesser AR of 15 [Red Permanent Assurance] October 11 2007 4:35 PM EDT

It's been posted and sent to admins before. But here's what I forgot to send....

OMG_I'm_On_Fire has joined the room.
- carnage: Welcome back to CB, OMG_I'm_On_Fire
[CB1]Gun> omg fire, are you there?
* Verifex puts out OMG_I'm_On_Fire
BluBBen> FAST!
[CB1]Gun> wish someone would put off his fire
BluBBen> roll around on the ground!!
Verifex> looks like thats a one-trick-pony name there...
[CB1]Gun> out* -.-
OMG_I'm_On_Fire> o.o guess not on fire now
Smackchow left the room.
[CB1]Gun> bout time one of you talked!
BluBBen> now you will have to change name ^^
Verifex> yeah, sorry bout that omg.. but you looked pretty desperate to be "not on fire"
[CB1]Gun> what is your relation to Ian and cyph?
Lightning_Raider left the room.
Verifex> alright, well new GM script guys.. seeyall tomorrow...
OMG_I'm_On_Fire> Cyph is my younger brother
[CB1]Gun> and Ian? :P
Sabriel has joined the room.
[CB1]Gun> take longer makes you look good....
Kapi_K left the room.
[CB1]Gun> you talk to the admins yet?
OMG_I'm_On_Fire> use the same lan as well. ...share a computer
Iluvatar[NK]> Cyph3rLor (Lor) 24.45.235.46 IantheHiarcher (DarkQueen) $315000
Iluvatar[NK]> OMG I'm On Fire (Jincon) 24.45.235.46IantheHiarcher (DarkQueen) $132000
Iluvatar[NK]> doesn't look so hot
[CB1]Gun> so you use Ian?
stanleybg left the room.
OMG_I'm_On_Fire> yeah
Iluvatar[NK]> ...
[CB1]Gun> busted
BluBBen> that's the least you can say
Iluvatar[NK]> CB1~!
[CB1]Gun> Do Not make another Account, having multiple accounts is a bannable offence. Contact an admin if you have more than one. Help-FAQs-Admins-G Beee or bartjan. Use Chatmail.
BluBBen> PR thread, here we come
Verifex> alrighty.. someone let me know which accounts are bad in pm please
[CB1]Gun> the thread was made already, admins ignored it
Charlie left the room.
Iluvatar[NK]> CB1 vets - busting multis since 2002~
[CB1]Gun> busted him weeks ago
Iluvatar[NK]> yes, it seems quite obvious Oo;
[CB1]Gun> this is just more c&p ;)
BluBBen> OMG, why did you fell silent?
BluBBen> aren't you going to stand upp for yourself?
BluBBen> otherwise we all KNOW you are a multi
[CB1]Gun> who cares, let them get reset and fund the tourney

NotSuitablForChildren [Yeeeaahh.................] October 12 2007 12:00 AM EDT

Just so long as it is ok with the admins. I was only peeved because none of them have signed in for a week and our clan points have been kinda sucky since they just get farmed all week. Seems like at least one of the brothers would have played in the last week. Maybe their internet is out or something :p

Goodfish October 12 2007 12:57 AM EDT

Not to be a hater, but my brother and I (TetraDomino, if anyone remembers him) shared an IP address for years, and transferred things due to RL deals we made (chores for a week for 200K, the like). Perhaps admins were lax, or maybe they just realized we WEREN'T multis. Instead of an insta-ban and reset, perhaps one ought investigate it further. Of course, the activity between my brother's characters and my own were limited, and mostly it was cash flow between us, albeit back and forth. And I also believe we posted the deals in PR anyways, so we were in the clear.

However, may I restate: please investigate it fully before you reach a conclusion. It would not be fair.

Iluvatar[NK] October 12 2007 1:58 AM EDT

Yes, impulse ban/resets are never good. It happened to my cousins and me five years ago. Even though we were wimpy 50k PR chars, it was still depressing D:

So please, investigate thoroughly.

P.S. Todd is evil ^^;

[P]Mitt October 12 2007 2:13 AM EDT

I love Todd!

Valgasu was the one that caught me 1.5 months into the game multi-ing... well Iluvatar was the one that caught me, Valg was the one that reset me :P

But I've stayed clean ever since :)

A Lesser AR of 15 [Red Permanent Assurance] October 12 2007 2:20 AM EDT

Waited through maybe 2 days of in&outs(one leaves and one enters within the second)before I sent mail to bart since they weren't finding CMs/PMs.
Real in&out--
Cyph3rLor left the room.
IantheHiarcher has joined the room.
<[CB1]Gun> IAN, You There!?
<[CB1]Gun> and bart sees no way they are multis......
IantheHiarcher left the room.
OMG_I'm_On_Fire has joined the room.
- carnage: Welcome again, OMG_I'm_On_Fire

Took weeks to finally get a peep and he admits to being a multi with one so it's not so rash.

Sacredpeanut October 14 2007 1:02 AM EDT

<[CB1]Gun> what is your relation to Ian and cyph?
<OMG_I'm_On_Fire> Cyph is my younger brother
[CB1]Gun> and Ian? :P
<OMG_I'm_On_Fire> use the same lan as well. ...share a computer
<[CB1]Gun> so you use Ian?
<OMG_I'm_On_Fire> yeah
<[CB1]Gun> busted

Gun - I don't know whether they are multis or not but I have no idea how you have interpreted that chatlog as a confession of OMG being a multi. I see OMG saying he uses the same LAN as cyph rather than him saying he uses the account IantheHiarcher.

Is it possible in your somewhat overzealous attempts to prove OMG is a multi you have mistaken a capital i for a small case L?

[P]Mitt October 14 2007 2:22 AM EDT

If I recall correctly, multi or not, if the trades are one-sided enough to give a player an advantage, that's a resetable offense. And the trades are definitely quite one sided

chuck1234 October 15 2007 5:14 AM EDT

I'd suggest better err on the side of caution rather than hastily take action just because two or three ppl are on the same IP. I was on another game online, and then my elder sis saw the fun and registered; only both of us have the same home LAN IP, so we got barred as multi. The funny thing is, she joined because it was so exciting, and I was planning to pay up 10 UK pounds to upgrade to the better version, and later on my sis would've done likewise. So, a rather bureaucratic attitude cost them 20 UK pounds, that's like almost 50 usd, go figure.

A Lesser AR of 15 [Red Permanent Assurance] October 15 2007 6:31 AM EDT

If anyone was mistaken on the use of L and i it was him. I clearly understood he put LAN. As you indirectly pointed out I asked about Ian three times so am left to assume the yeah meant he used Ian. No mention of another brother. The transfers NK pasted would reasonably serve we were speaking of Ian still. Given my wording it is possible he could've misunderstood the subject, no denying that. However if he thought I was asking about LAN, the child must have ADD and the lack of retort which followed will be supporting evidence. ;)
Doesn't matter, seems they upped and quit on us. More lost rares and less log in spam.
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