Vacation Option (in General)


lostling October 29 2007 8:52 PM EDT

There should be an option that allows you to pause your CB and whatever bonuses for a set amount of time(1 week and up to prevent abuse) (self specificed)... (stops all regen and all extra BA) so those poor nubs will not lose their NUBs and NCBs will not lose their NCBs due to pressing things to attend to in real life
suggestions and stuff

[RX3]Cotillion October 29 2007 8:56 PM EDT

Well... No?

If you want to be the best, you need to make sacrifices. It's totally unnecessary to make it to the top, and you shouldn't expect to if you don't want to put out as much as the next person.

I think the x/20 refresh rates jacked that up a lot, and this is coming from a person that can't always use every BA per day.

The top shouldn't come easy.

lostling October 29 2007 8:59 PM EDT

i just find it a pity for some NUBs... who managed to start playing the game then have to go off on training or something :) ah well its just a suggestion...

Talion October 29 2007 9:11 PM EDT

I think it's a great idea.

It would have to apply to the user account as a whole: No activity at all for spans of 1 or more weeks. Which means no transfers, no selling, no buying, no bidding, no challenges, no leaving or joining clans, no forging, etc...

It would give a lot of people a chance to enjoy the upcoming holidays without stress.

Yes, an excellent idea indeed.

Talion October 29 2007 9:11 PM EDT

Of course, cutting a vacation would not be allowed either unless a large fee could be provided to the Central Bank.

lostling October 29 2007 9:19 PM EDT

cutting the vacation lol... use the same penalty system as failed bot checks :) i would imagine you would need a couple of million just to come back a day earlier lol rofl

[RX3]Cotillion October 29 2007 9:35 PM EDT

It's only a game. No need to stress about it.

Maybe I'm the only one that thinks like that. Ah well...

Talion October 29 2007 9:35 PM EDT

Yes, it's a bit funny, but it makes sense. Else clan players would take 1 day of vacation every Sunday during their NCB.

It would also be necessary to prevent players on vacation from chatting with anyone except admins, else an N*B player could shop for bigger items in the forums while on vacation so he could come back with a bigger NW after a while and start fighting players he could not even consider before the vacation.

Talion October 29 2007 9:38 PM EDT

"It's only a game. No need to stress about it."

LOL! Games that do not stress me at least a bit I tend to find boring after a while.

I always keep in mind that's its only a game, but I set goals for myself and they are sort of stressful... in a good way. :)

lostling October 29 2007 9:39 PM EDT

y not let them shop during that time? doesnt matter if they shop lol... during the time they will be shopping the rest of us till still be progressing(granted at a slow rate) but we will still be moving while they are standing still lol.... and y not give them those "perks" lol 1 week of shopping... i doubt many NUBs will do that... personally i would be bored out of my life

Mem October 30 2007 11:50 AM EDT

Perhaps for your first year you start out with no vacation time, then after a year you get two weeks, five years you get three, ten years you get four...

Is this a job? Vacation time is silly. I just took a vacation from CB for five days to attend a wedding. On the tail end of my NCB. Of course, it cost my potential to reach 2 mil MPR, but I wouldn't have missed that wedding for anything in the world. Nothing. Especially not this game.

Losing a few days of a bonus is nothing to cry about.

lostling October 30 2007 11:56 AM EDT

as i said it is mainly for nubs... like those who go away for like lets say 3 months or something due to training or whatever and when they come back they have nothing... or close to it lol and they are still not familiar with the game lol

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] October 30 2007 12:22 PM EDT

i like the vacation idea, but only if we get to have a poll and vote on who goes on vacation next. it would also make chat and forums off limits during vacation time! ;)

lostling October 30 2007 8:17 PM EDT

lol doesnt make sense to bar them from forums and chat... if they choose to chat or use the forums... what do they gain by going on vacation.... other then shopping as someone pointed out... lol

Tyriel [123456789] October 30 2007 8:49 PM EDT

NUB goes into vacation immediately (or as soon as he can), spending his time in chat and forums learning about what strategies are best. After vacation is over, he switches to a good strategy (that a normal NUB who didn't (ab)use the vacation time wouldn't have thought of without lots of help from veterans) and climbs the ranks.

All in all, I'd have to say a resounding 'no' to vacation time, unless there are some ridiculously extreme penalties/restrictions attached to it, which would probably make it useless.

Vacation is for when you are DIRECTLY competing with people who can STEAL from you. You cannot steal from others in CB, and there is no direct competition (as in games like WarBook, Utopia, etc. where there is only a limited amount of resources in the game that you must steal from others), so no vacation time is necessary, in my opinion.

lostling October 30 2007 8:56 PM EDT

if a NUB does that then kudos to them... that would mean they are serious about the game -.-
i do not see y your so adverse to having competition... i think we are all understand that theres absolutely no way a NUB can reach ranger's size within the length of a NUB even if they started off single minion and then bought minions when it was over...

QBBast [Hidden Agenda] October 30 2007 9:07 PM EDT



Lostling, I fail to see how you think adding vacation time isn't being averse to competition. You're either competitive or you are not. Play or go play.

lostling October 30 2007 9:12 PM EDT

bast... maybe competition is the wrong word to use... cant really think of another word lol...

Godpanda October 30 2007 9:13 PM EDT

Well, before all you people go agro here on poor lostling, maybe he's really just trying to be helpful? Just because none of you ever go on vacation, doesn't mean others don't :P

Heck, even Ranger goes on vacation. Let's not make this YOU ARE EITHER COMPETITVE OR NOT! It doesn't work that way. It's not like the VO wouldonly be open to NUB.... or to people who aren't competing. And, imagine this. 3 months 3 weeks into NUB. Almost catching up. And your spouse wants to go on vacation. You don't say, "NO! I GOT to finish carnageblender!". Does this make this person non-competitive? No. It makes them human, and a good husband/wife. They shouldn't be penalized for it.

Besides, if you took the bonus and made it stop people from attacking you, would help all those high levels in clans. Some balance, eh?

QBBast [Hidden Agenda] October 30 2007 9:15 PM EDT


Yes. Yes, it does. You make the choice. Hopefully you aren't in the men's room with your cell phone while your wife is enjoying her anniversary dinner, but, yes, you make the choice.

Godpanda October 30 2007 9:17 PM EDT

*shakes head* Sorry, that's just silly for you to say that.

lostling October 30 2007 9:17 PM EDT

not everyone has a g3 hand phone (even my father's hand phone which has internet cant play cb lol no idea y i cant login with it)... the only reason i get online even during vacations is that i have a laptop... just stating... not everyone is rich -.-"

drudge October 30 2007 9:22 PM EDT

you're too hardcore for your own good, lost and gw. the sun will still rise in the east and set in the west even if you "lose out" on months of BA.

QBBast [Hidden Agenda] October 30 2007 9:27 PM EDT


1. We need a bonus to catch up because we came late to the party.
2. We need to have ready access to all rares immediately upon starting the game.
3a. We only have to play once every 5/7/8 hrs.
3b. We need to be able to go on vacation without penalty to our growth, relative to those who aren't going on vacation.
4. We refuse to accept that everybody takes breaks occasionally, and either it all evens out or those who play the most grow the most.

This is your definition of competition?

lostling October 30 2007 9:35 PM EDT

you dont ever read do you ?

1. We need a bonus to catch up because we came late to the party.
thats just random...

2. We need to have ready access to all rares immediately upon starting the game.
how does a NUB get access to all rares because of a vacation?

3a. We only have to play once every 5/7/8 hrs.
7 (me)

3b. We need to be able to go on vacation without penalty to our growth, relative to those who aren't going on vacation.
it pauses everything... so theres your penalty in growth already... everyone else is growing during that time... you just retain your bonus

4. We refuse to accept that everybody takes breaks occasionally, and either it all evens out or those who play the most grow the most.
1 day of NUB regen + free BA is worth close to 4-5 days of a normal person

Tyriel [123456789] October 30 2007 10:05 PM EDT

"Just because none of you ever go on vacation, doesn't mean others don't :P"

I missed a good month and a half off of my last NCB because of vacation. So, what did I do?

I started a new one.

That's the point of having the NCB. So you can start a new one with a bonus that will get you near the top (practically) whenever you want.

A vacation option isn't needed. If you're going away for a long vacation, you probably planned ahead and knew that it was going to happen before you even started your NCB. If you didn't... tough bananas? If it's a short one, a few days isn't going to hurt so much that you can't get within 98% of what you were going to get anyways, and there's always the next NCB. :)

And NUBs? I'm sure there will be some complaining from people who 'wasted' their NUBs because of vacations, including me to some extent. Isn't it not fair that new people who join can spend all their BA every day and get the most out of it, even if they go on vacation, when people in the past couldn't. But that's life, right?

Nothing against you, lost. It's a good idea. But it's for a different type of game than CB, I think.

Everybody values life more than a game. Everybody takes breaks from games for reasons somewhat beyond their control (hospitalization, travel, special occasions, etc). If you happen to go on more vacations than others, congratulations. You gain more in life in return for less in a game. If you get sick more than others, I wish you better luck and health in the future. All in all, life isn't perfect, you can't do everything you want, you can't always be the best at everything, and you can't use life as a reason to get what you want in a game, simply because everybody has one, so live with it. :)

This ridiculously long rant has been brought to you by somebody who currently has nothing better to do. :)

Talion October 31 2007 8:10 AM EDT

"A vacation option isn't needed. If you're going away for a long vacation, you probably planned ahead and knew that it was going to happen before you even started your NCB."

You know, comments like these really tick me off.

If I were to refrain myself from starting a NCB because I will have to be away for an extended period of time during the next 4 months, I would never start one.

Holidays are coming soon. I want to spend time with my family and doing volunteer work for my community. I will have a hard time having access to a computer during that time and I would not have any time to play anyway if I had access to one 100% of the time.

Yes, if a vacation option is available, some people will abuse it. But they do not mater. They will be reset when the admins catch them and that is the end of that story.

The people that really mater are the ones that can really use such an option to make the game more enjoyable.

A well thought off vacation option is a really good thing, not a bad thing. It would draw people into the game instead of away from it because they don't have a chance of catching up to the top spot unless they take no "vacation" for 4 months.

For the record, I can live with a vacation-less CB because I don't really care if I become top player or not.

But some people who can't play 7 days a week for 4 months in row would still like to have a chance at the top spot. They are the ones that really mater.

QBJohnnywas October 31 2007 8:29 AM EDT

You go away from the game you might lose out on bonus, but Im not missing my holidays for anybody. Once I switch off that computer and head for the airport everything goes out of my mind.

I don't miss the game during that time, and just pick up where I left off when I get back.

If players start up and then miss some time and by doing so miss out on their bonus, well to put it bluntly and simply...Tough!

There's an extensive Help section for them to learn about the game and the NCB to help them rise up the ranks.

The bonuses are there to help you rise up the ranks, but you have to put in the time. Jon already hands us a hell of a lot on a plate. I don't think we need anymore help.

QBJohnnywas October 31 2007 8:31 AM EDT

That might sound a little harsh. But I'm half expecting somebody to ask Jon to play the game for them next.

>.<

Talion October 31 2007 9:00 AM EDT

"The bonuses are there to help you rise up the ranks, but you have to put in the time."

Apologies, but this issue is really getting to me. I don't understand why people are comparing going on vacation to slacking? I just don't get it.

Situation 1:

Someone puts in the time and the $$$ to spend all available BA during the first 90 days of a NCB in order to catch up to the top spot. Suddently, that someone gets called on an emergency business trip and misses 3 or 4 days of BA.

That's it. Opportunity to catch up to top spot is gone. That is 75K to 100K MPR gone from NCB. It's BIG.

Situation 2:

Top character gets called on a emergency business trip for 3 or 4 days. Consequences ~0.


Lets not compare the following types of players:

(1) Spends 2x160 BA per day except on weekends and spends no $ on buying BA but wants reward bonus adjusted to compensate for lack of participation.

(2) Puts in the time and effort 7 days a week and needs to take a few days off now and then for very valid reasons.

Depending on marital status, job type, and a whole other bunch of factors, not everyone wanting to put in the effort to reach top spot can do it for 7 days a week during 4 months.

And lets say someone keeps going on vacation throughout an entire N*B (2 months for example). The reward bonus associated to the N*B at creation will not even apply at the end of the N*B. So catching up to top spot would not be possible anyways.

QBJohnnywas October 31 2007 9:15 AM EDT

I'm not comparing vacation time to slacking. But I think you'll find that certain players have found ways to go on holiday and still play CB wherever they go. That's dedication!

I really don't see what people going on holiday has to do with Jon and how he sets up CB. If you lose out on your bonus because you are busy doing something else well...again I say TOUGH! Jon really has put enough things in place to help out people.

And from a gameplay point of view, part of the game is trying to catch up on people. You might as well give some pause function to all the people who can't access all their BA everyday, or free cash to those people who can't afford to buy the extra BA. Because all that impacts on your bonus time too.

Kong Ming October 31 2007 9:27 AM EDT

I don't believe anyone who wants a chance at the top should be given any extra advantage compared to anyone else. If you have to go for a vocation, then too bad for you. You can't expect everyone to 'wait' for you or give you an 'unfair' advantage because you are on holidays or work!

lostling October 31 2007 9:32 AM EDT

i do not understand y everyone is so obsessed with NCB -.- sheez

Talion October 31 2007 10:00 AM EDT

"But I think you'll find that certain players have found ways to go on holiday and still play CB wherever they go. That's dedication!"

Don't compare luck to dedication. Your example is just luck.

Try playing CB while camping in the Tibetan mountains.
Try playing CB while serving food to homeless people 12 hours a day for an entire weekend.
Try playing CB while going on a safari somewhere in Africa.

Heck! If I go on vacation in Las Vegas, I'll have plenty of time to play CB and gamble a few $ on the blackjack table. Is that dedication? No, it's just plain old luck.

QBJohnnywas October 31 2007 10:07 AM EDT

I wouldn't call it luck. Luck is what happens when you look down and find money on the street. Or don't get on the train one day because your wife is drying her hair and you're late and the train you normally get on gets blown up by suicide bombers. That's luck.

Risking life and limb, or at the least the disapproval of your loved ones while you're on holiday so you can burn some ba. That's dedication.

I'm lucky enough to be able to get on here for almost my entire daily BA. But I wouldn't expect to be able to get the missing amount if for example I couldn't play at work anymore.

No offense to anybody that thinks it's a good idea, but I think it's a ridiculous idea. Life is life and this.. this is a game.

QBJohnnywas October 31 2007 10:11 AM EDT

Also, lets just say for a moment that vacation mode exists. What activates it? Would it activate automatically if you were away from CB for any length of time? What happens if your computer dies or your office puts a new Firewall in place? Do you get your time back if you weren't able to activate it? And what if you were actually ill? I'm not crawling from my sickbed to my computer just to activate vacation mode.

If you want fair you have to be fair to everyone.

Talion October 31 2007 10:23 AM EDT

"Risking life and limb, or at the least the disapproval of your loved ones while you're on holiday so you can burn some ba. That's dedication. "

If your loved ones can't give you a few 20 minutes break every day during a vacation, that's stupid. It's not dedication.

And your definition of luck and dedication is a bit extreme. I think you are grasping at straws on that one.

Regardless, I don't think I can add anything else to this thread without it being a bit of a flame war. So this is my last post in this thread.

QBJohnnywas October 31 2007 10:27 AM EDT

Sorry Talion, I wasn't out to involve myself in a flame war. I just get a little 'annoyed' by certain things. See Bast's list earlier on in the thread and note my agreement with her stance. ;)

QBBast [Hidden Agenda] October 31 2007 12:17 PM EDT


You can't agree with facetiousness! It only leads to fascism.

QBJohnnywas October 31 2007 12:35 PM EDT

I'll agree with whatever I like thank you very much! ;)

QBsutekh137 October 31 2007 1:54 PM EDT

Hm, this would be another reason why I've thought for a while that the bonus times shouldn't be times at all, but an extra BA allocation that someone can click through. It doesn't last X number of days, it lasts X number of BA.

Never did figure out how to handle clan points in that scenario, however.

But that's really all a vacation mode would offer -- the ability to pause the bonus as if it were a pile of BA instead of a limited time-frame.

DH November 1 2007 1:40 AM EDT

*dirtyhippy chants*

Bring back FORS
Bring back FORS
Bring back FORS

Lord Bob November 1 2007 8:41 AM EDT

I'd just like to add that I'll be spending 10 days in the Philippines this December, where I will be missing 10 days of BA, and I still think the vacation idea is a bad one.
This thread is closed to new posts. However, you are welcome to reference it from a new thread; link this with the html <a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=002GGd">Vacation Option</a>