Ex shots...again (in General)


QBJohnnywas December 7 2007 8:43 PM EST

Can we have a definitive answer on whether or not it is ok to force ex shots to spawn please?

Given that, judging by the store logs, it has happened six times in the last six hours. Of course it could be pure coincidence that the store happened to spawn ex shots three times in an hour right after iron shot was bought. Thankfully for an ex shot user I managed to snag some with proper camping skills (!). Sorry to the person who was hoping to get their spawn. >.<

If it's legal then I want in. If it's not then lets move ex shot to auctions.

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] December 7 2007 8:53 PM EST

I think they said it was all right as long as you use the iron shots... atleast thats what I gathered from the last post.

TheHatchetman December 7 2007 8:57 PM EST

the issue is that many people will just hold onto the IS for a day or two until they are no longer on the logs for buying them or the ES they spawned, and then sell them...

j'bob December 7 2007 9:03 PM EST

i'm toying with a smaller character (who uses a sling) and so i buy shot for him. so yes, if i'm buying shot for a weapon i have, i feel i should be entitled to the eshot that follows to replace what i buy. just like i buy bolts for my main character but almost always the mid amounts, leaving the larger groups that spawn to whoever wants them. the problem we'll have eventually is that if left to spawn in the store as people buy regular shot, what happens to all that regular shot that people are using sooooo little of because what they (we) really want is the eshot. there are going to be some very large bundles of shot being carried around but not used.
having said that, i still think eshot should be an auction item. i've managed to pick up quite a bit of eshot in the last few days... look for it in the Charity auctions/sales. and after looking at the log i have to giggle JW, nice catch!!

AdminG Beee December 7 2007 9:03 PM EST

Jon, can you please move exp shots to auction.

Thanatos December 8 2007 12:38 AM EST

Thats not needed.
make it so you can not sell or transfer iron shot, that way they are stuck with it.
I have been using all the shot I have so I can start buying again..
Other have a chance i have been out camp for about two weeks now. But, after all the commotion I cause in the not so distant past.
Whoever is causing it should know better.

However I do believe, that it should be more expensive.

Thanatos December 8 2007 12:46 AM EST

Oh, sorry, I would have put this in with my last comment which I think is more important.

It should not be up-gradable you have a weapon to put plus and x on.

Ulord[NK] December 8 2007 12:49 AM EST

Auction them solve all the problems. People who uses them can buy them. The arbitrage is also gone and the extra cash paid for ES becomes cash sinked. Win win win for everybody :).

QBOddBird December 8 2007 12:53 AM EST

I'm with G Beee.

Exp. Shots to the Auction?

NINAbuser December 8 2007 1:03 AM EST

Dang lets just make the explosive sling now :p who uses staff sling or regular sling + ES's anyway? not me thats for sure!

j'bob December 8 2007 1:46 AM EST

es in auctions or...
i'm with Nina... THE FIRE SLING!

Godpanda December 8 2007 4:32 AM EST

Auctions.

Godpanda December 8 2007 5:59 AM EST

Oh, definitely. It's WAY too easy to spawn these things.

QBJohnnywas December 8 2007 6:12 AM EST

It's almost like ordering online and getting home delivery.

Lumpy Koala December 8 2007 6:12 AM EST

why can't it just spawn in auction? It's a good money sink too :)

Thanatos December 8 2007 10:08 AM EST

I can think of a couple of reason for it not to spawn in auction.

1. Bundles are way to small.
2. It would not spawn often enuff to make it reasonable to use.
3. There are people who catch it and sell it at auction to make some extra cash.
4. It is the only thing that gives a tank team mass damage.
5. Some people like camping and you will take that away from them,
as boring as that is to some of you.

Yes it would sell at auction. And I buy it there now when it is there.

Special weapons-
How about a Fireball Sling or
maybe a Magic Missile Crossbow

You know them things that never miss I promise never to raise the plus but I would jack up the x like crazy.

Thanatos December 8 2007 10:13 AM EST

When you think you thought of everything something else pops in your head.

Make it so tourney characters have a different store to buy in that
would make it so they are not making it spawn.

TheHatchetman December 8 2007 10:20 AM EST

1. Bundles are way to small - as compared to? Bundles of seeker/slayer ammo were about the same size, yet i always managed to find them when i needed them...

2. It would not spawn often enuff to make it reasonable to use. - sure it would, so long as the people too cheap to pay market value for ES used IS

3. There are people who catch it and sell it at auction to make some extra cash. - Sorry, but that's just too bad. Better the money leave the economy than someone make a tiny 3-5k profit off each stack...

4. It is the only thing that gives a tank team mass damage. - this has no baring in its location... We're talking about moving it to auctions, not bringing the base down to 4... And I believe you meant a sling-using tank...

5. Some people like camping and you will take that away from them,
as boring as that is to some of you. - I seriously doubt someone is "camping" for ES in the proper use of the term... From what I've gathered, camping was when they would spend all day just entering and leaving the store in hopes of snagging a randomly spawned rare... Now that rares go straight into auctions, and ES spawn based on the IS count in the store, the only people getting ES are the ones that spawn it (boo!) or the ones lucky enough to stumble into the store after someone has managed to spawn it, but used up all/most of their purchase limit for 20 minutes. If anybody is constantly entering/leaving the weapon store, just for the possibility of snagging some ES, then they are indeed soulless and aren't to be considered :P

QBJohnnywas December 8 2007 10:38 AM EST

The problem with the forced spawn from what I can tell - perhaps I'm wrong on this - but it stops the store refreshing normally. So if I want some more ex shot I would be forced to do the unnatural spawn thing.

I'm not going to do that, as tempting as it is so I'm stuck. Either I camp the store keeping an eye on the forced spawn squad or I give up using ex shot.

Put them in auction and everybody who uses ex shot gets a fair try at purchasing. And then if you want to buy up all the auction shot to re-sell at a profit that's up to you. But at least I can compete.

Currently none of the ex shot purchases seem to be going anywhere other than into hoard. Very few are going into auctions. Which means some people are missing out on a tidy profit because I WILL buy from auction, sometimes at stupid prices.

TheHatchetman December 8 2007 11:07 AM EST

"Which means some people are missing out on a tidy profit because I WILL buy from auction, sometimes at stupid prices."

I know what ya mean man. Reminds me of the seeker arrow "shortage" a year ago, where i often payed $12-$18 /arrow (so basically, at least half my fight rewards were going to seekers and healing), but I couldn't function effectively otherwise...

QBJohnnywas December 8 2007 11:11 AM EST

I'll freely admit to be annoyed by this for selfish reasons as well as for the 'good of the game'. I'll also admit that I'm kind of stuck through my own choice to upgrade my SoD to the point that I've almost forced myself to not use it. It's a shame that it's not as good with iron shot. Lol.

Ex shot into auction!

Or give my SoD explosive qualities!!!!! :)

AdminNightStrike December 8 2007 11:40 AM EST

Even if Exshot is in auction, it will still be spawned in auction by buying Iron Shot from the store.

j'bob December 8 2007 11:45 AM EST

even if that's the case, at least it going into auctions (with no BIN) it'll give time to people who want/need it to get a "shot" at it. he he he. pun.
and people only looking to make a quick buck will be cut out by people who will spend good money to get what they want. (a good thing).

QBJohnnywas December 8 2007 11:49 AM EST

"NightStrike, 11:40 AM EST [collapse]
Even if Exshot is in auction, it will still be spawned in auction by buying Iron Shot from the store. "

Yes true, but with no BIN people will have to take their chances bidding. Which is how it should be IMO.

NINAbuser December 8 2007 1:44 PM EST

You know I play a game called Baulder's Gate 2 and in the expansion they have this nifty little club called the Club of Detonation now I don't advise CB to start using close range fireball weapons (Mostly due to the char factor and the fact we don't have an item that reflects all spells :P) but would a Sling of Detonation really damper the economy that much? Seems like a good idea at maybe people will use slings more if we had it (Not sure if this is a good thing).. or is it an overpowered issue cause if that is the case then anyway force spawning ES's to use them with his/her Sling of Death is overpowered as well?

Windwalker December 9 2007 3:22 AM EST

I've been trying to keep up with this issue and I think to keep it fair.(AUCTION) No cheating and everyone has a chance to get them. I just hope they show up enough ;) Kinda hard to go back to the regular shot once you start with the heroin I mean exp. shot.

AdminNightStrike December 9 2007 12:47 PM EST

You could also just change the way that items spawn. Instead of basing it on store purchases, base it on ammo used. For every X ammo fired, Y ammo spawns, Z% of which is specialty.

Thanatos December 9 2007 1:30 PM EST

Nightstrike that is an amazing suggestion and a totally fresh idea.

I like it.

:) :) :) :)P

AdminG Beee December 9 2007 1:33 PM EST

I'd buy as many "Y" as I could just to stop others that actually use them from getting their hands on them.
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