economic clan.. (in General)


Kefeck [Demonic Serenity] December 12 2007 12:25 PM EST

can someone really just tell me the point!?

horseguy001 [Battle Royale] December 12 2007 12:26 PM EST

Reduced xfer fees and a 5% bonus to forging I believe

Kefeck [Demonic Serenity] December 12 2007 12:30 PM EST

I do not really think thats enough insentive to join an economic clan.. (but I could be wrong ). I know transfers can get pricey..

Cube December 12 2007 12:44 PM EST

Less forge fees I think

Ulord[NK] December 12 2007 12:49 PM EST

if 5% less forge fee is not enough incentive, I don't know what would be. If you are forging, you wouldn't be fighting. So the opportunity cost of fight clan is not there. Econ clans are essentially clan for forgers.

AdminNightStrike December 12 2007 12:55 PM EST

You get a bonus to forging, and you also get reduced forge fees along with the reduced xfer fees. Check the wiki under "clans" for more information.

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] December 12 2007 4:20 PM EST

It's still not really enough, IMHO! We already cant gain Exp, but we still dont even get the same money gains as fighters...

Ulord[NK] December 12 2007 5:20 PM EST

Oh really? Let's see what the actual bonus is:

Assume you can forge 1 worth of nw without any bonus. The cost is 0.2

You can forge 1.05 worth of nw without any bonus, the cost is 1.05*0.15 = 0.1575

Your profit without bonus is 0.8. With bonus ou get 0.8925.

0.8925/0.8 = 1.115625. In other words, ou get 11.5625% bonus to forge across the board for all clans by being in eco clan. That's not counting the saving in transfer cost. That's pretty well balanced imo.

Flamey December 12 2007 8:00 PM EST

I think the matter at hand is that there's no point to being in a good one or a bad one, that is when you look at it by revenue. Everyone can just create their own and get the same bonus and such. There's no competition or anything really.

TheHatchetman December 12 2007 8:08 PM EST

"It's still not really enough, IMHO! We already cant gain Exp, but we still dont even get the same money gains as fighters..."

charging 65%, you will get about the same monetary gains as fighters*... I'm hoping once the NUB change to forging has taken full effect, 70% will again become the norm. Until then, I'm getting as much work done for 60-65% as i can :P


* This is heavily based on your potential challenge bonus.

Ulord[NK] December 12 2007 8:11 PM EST

How do you quantify a good forging clan or a bad forging clan? That's simply who spent the most amount of BA forging with the highest MPR (or nub bonus). There is no strategy. One simply cannot be a better forger than another given same mpr, BA use and lack thereof of bonuses, provided that you don't mess up your forge cycle and overheat that +200 Morg upgraded to 99.8%. I don't see anything wrong with the current eco clan. It's more like a guild that provides services for forgers.

ScY December 12 2007 9:39 PM EST

Now, happily, the NUB doesnt apply to forging =)

So, instead, BUFF MAH FORGE HAMMAH!!

Seriously though, if forgers forgo exp for just pure money, shouldnt it make sense that a forger make slightly more than the average fighter (I guess that would be the ratio of mpr to challenge bonus)

Talion December 12 2007 10:28 PM EST

"Seriously though, if forgers forgo exp for just pure money, shouldnt it make sense that a forger make slightly more than the average fighter"

That will never happen. If it does, forging prices will go down because everyone and their mothers will start forging instead of fighting.
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