Oblivion Advice (in Off-topic)

Gandalf January 5 2008 2:59 PM EST

I have owned Oblivion twice now and both times i have taken it back,
I love my RPG's though Oblivion for some reason hasn't satisfied me.

AGAIN i have the urge to purchase it the third time..... i have 360 and pc. Both times i have bought it for the 360 reading through forums etc they say its only worth buying for pc to use the mods etc.....

1.Are the expansions for the 360 through xbox live? (i do have xbox live)

2.What to Shivering isles and (forgot the other one) add to the game?

3.Does the guide make the game more fun? Don't know why but i could only get in the 'bad guys guild' were i would get assigned to kill people. And get chased around the game for hours on end by the dumb guards.(wasn't fun)

I don't want exactly these questions answering just discussion about it etc, and why do i suck at it so much LOL

QBOddBird January 5 2008 3:09 PM EST

Just don't do anything for the guards to chase you....taunt the guys you have to kill so that they attack you, then it is self defense and you don't get in trouble.

I've only played Morrowind, but I've still never completely looked through the game...there's a ton there....but basically you can't just kill people, that's murder. You have to find a way to do it legally if you don't want to be a criminal and be chased around by the guards.

Ulord[NK] January 5 2008 5:20 PM EST

You can always hide all your goodies and do time for the crime. I enjoyed playing vampire. It was fun being evil :)

[RX3]Cotillion January 5 2008 5:22 PM EST

Shivering Isles adds a whole new island and a whole crap load of quests. I've never played it personally, but people say it's pretty cool.

I can't bring myself to play Oblivion on the 360 or PS3, because I'm so accustomed to mods. There are so many mods that improve upon the game so much it's not even funny. I've seen (and used) so many weapon/armor mods that put Vanilla Oblivion items to shame, and whenever I make a character, I use hair mods and completely new custom races. There are other very awesome mods as well. I had one that made trees actually look like trees instead of little short weeds, it made the game feel much more real.

The reason you may have trouble playing the game is that you aren't picking a class with strengths of how you want to fight. Some of the classes primary skills are totally useless, or more useless than others. Also, your weapons really blow chunks if your skill in them is low, and they also decrease in damage output noticeable the more they get damaged.

I'm not really sure why you couldn't get into the Fighters or Mages guild. You have to visit certain towns to join, or you have to go to certain towns to start the quests...

All of the perks and incentives of playing Oblivion for the PC are completely lost if your PC can't handle the game at a decent setting with a decent frame rate. You may say to yourself ''graphics don't matter'', but it'll probably make you want to quit after you see all the ugly dull graphics compared to screenshots of the 360/ps3 versions.

Yukk January 5 2008 6:16 PM EST

That's all great advice. Joining the mages is a complete pain, but I've done it both times I have played. I think Oblivion worked better for me than Morrowind. I've played that twice and never finished. I always lose track of the main quest around the end when I have to go the the blight mountain.
Anyway, for Oblivion, the mods are great. I play on the PC, so I have some unofficial mods that add to the graphics and so on. The official mods are good too. Shivering Isles is a whole game on its own with more gameplay than most full games. Knights of the Nine is a big add-on too, though played in the regular Oblivion world and without the same scope.

BootyGod January 5 2008 6:29 PM EST

They key to Oblivion is to immerse yourself in the game. Become your character, and let it become your avatar in the game. Me? I have temper issues and am odd. So I play that in game. It leads to many hysterical beatdowns using warhammers.

Harlem January 5 2008 7:13 PM EST

I don't have oblivion, I wish I did, but I don't (no 360 or pc good enough to handle graphics). I do have morrowind and it's one of my favorite games. If oblivion is alot like morrowind, think about how you want to fight, do you want to cause a lot of damage yet have to wear heavy armor to protect yourself effectively? or do you want to fight how I do and avoid getting hit but still hit a lot, not a lot of damage just more accurately. I use a thief, I broke into the temple with the God in it and the guards got so ticked, I had to fight my way out of the city, I must have killed 3 of them before I hit the water and swam into the sewers...

Ulord[NK] January 5 2008 7:16 PM EST

My favourite thing to do in oblivion is to sneak into a guard barrack full of sleeping guards and unleash aoe fireballs in tight quarter. I end up roasting more than 10 of them before they took me down. Ahh sweet sweet revenge.

[RX3]Cotillion January 5 2008 7:35 PM EST

In Oblivion, if you see your sword hit an enemy, it'll do damage. There is no chance to dodge or anything.

I always thought the magic to be kinda cheesy, but maybe that's just because I like to use bows and stealth.

Nerevas January 5 2008 8:37 PM EST

its _all_ about the mods. that being said, you need it for PC.

lotien January 5 2008 9:00 PM EST

you kill the people where no one can see it the you dont get in trouble

Mikel January 6 2008 1:45 AM EST

Good game, easy to get sidetracked with so many quests.
I have yet to complete that game... then again I have it on the 360 and my kiddo takes it with him on the weekends (to his mom's) and the rest of the time he's busy playing Halo 3 or Call of Duty 4. *sighs
I might just breakdown and get it for the PC

Gandalf January 6 2008 6:42 AM EST

Thanks for all your info etc and help guys.

Just run the test on Gamespot to see if my pc is good enough, everything is ok except the graphics card, now this may put me off getting it, while i can play with this one however it isn't the recommended. Changing it doesn't look to hard, do you really have to were a static charge thing? LOL and they seem expensive :(

I have a Nividia Geforce 6200
Recommended is something like 6800.

How much will this effect the graphics?

Eurynome Bartleby [Bartleby's] January 6 2008 9:20 AM EST

How much? Well, with your current card the game will probably play at an atrocious 2 FPS. (In 800x600, even) I have a 6500 that I overclocked a bit and even then I cannot hope to play in 800x600.

Anything better will more importantly improve the speed of things than graphics.

A change is in order if you want to play the game :(

What would help in recomending a card is what expansion slot you use. AGP of PCI?

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 [SHIELD] January 6 2008 9:48 AM EST

a 7900 will run the game smoothly on pretty high settings, a 7600 will run it on low settings pretty well

Gandalf January 6 2008 10:40 AM EST

I dont know which slot my pc has, anyway to find out? Instead of going into pc with a screw driver?

Eurynome Bartleby [Bartleby's] January 6 2008 11:07 AM EST

A diagnostic program like Everest or SiSandra is free and very useful to know what's inside the box. You can google them easily, and they are small downloads.

But you can never beat the documentation that came with the computer and pieces :) If you have them of course!

Gandalf January 6 2008 11:20 AM EST

So i have a PCI card... Will any of these be good enough? XFX GeForce 8600GT 512MB DDR2 PCIE DVI 540/800 XFX GeForce 8500GT 512MB DDR2 PCIE DVI VGA TV

Gandalf January 6 2008 12:29 PM EST

So now i have run into another problem, i dont know what Watt my pc has, any way around going inside pc, i looked all over my pc and doesnt say anything about it lol.

Yukk January 6 2008 1:18 PM EST

Gandalf, PCIE is not PCI. If you have PCIE, that's the latest and greatest. If you have PCI, then that's old and you'll have a horrible time trying to play Oblivion. I had about the fastest AGP card in my old PC and had trouble with oblivion some of the time and AGP is faster than PCI.
Check again whether your PC is PCI Express or plain PCI.

Gandalf January 6 2008 2:21 PM EST

it is PCI Express. And i don't think im going to get it for pc, i know im missing out on a hell of alot of fun with the mods, however i will be fine with the xbox version, going to get GOTY version too :)

Eurynome Bartleby [Bartleby's] January 6 2008 2:32 PM EST

Having no mods for download sucks, but playing with a controller is a great plus for me. Makes the game more immersive, IMO. You can slack on a couch too, which is better than sitting in front of a computer :)

And there are no crash to desktop bugs on a console. Better yet, there are no crashes at all!

muon [The Winds Of Fate] January 6 2008 4:33 PM EST

My advice if you want to play oblivion is to get Daggerfall instead. _Brilliant_ game, waaay better than Oblivion or Morrowind. Still have all the fun stuff, like the ability to become a vampire or werewolf, it has a much deeper, more intricate plot, better developed characters, more believable world environment, etc etc.

Sure, it has its downsides, but IMO, it is much more fun to play.

Yukk January 9 2008 3:41 PM EST

Oh, man. I just loaded up Daggerfall since you reminded me.
I haven't played it in ages, but it runs like a dog :(
How do you run it ? I guess I should just install Win95/98 on my old PC and run games on that since XP gives me so much trouble with them.

Marlfox [Cult of the Valaraukar] January 9 2008 4:06 PM EST

Bah, Daggerfall is the must buggy thing in the world. ARENA is tons better. And free to download. I love that game.
Even if I only just started playing it last month...
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