EB's or DB's (in General)

Which one would be better for a SFBM

evasion?

well EB's boost evasion and DB's lower PTH so im not sure which one's better.

if you are using evasion as your skill then i would go with eb's, you get the skill boost, plus ac.

okay :)

toss in an AoF, some elven gloves and you'd be almost untouchable.

I think EBs are much better than DBs because EBs can be effective against any type of enemy you face (it boosts your skill!) while DBs only help against tanks.

"Gives no protection against Direct Damage Spells and does not grant AC; instead decreases effectiveness of enemy PTH (Plus-To-Hit) enchantment based on Enchantment (+) points added to the boots" from wiki section on DBs.

drudge, the Evasion skill too is effective only against tanks; so, the question is yet unanswered! Why are EBs better than DBs? Or, put another way, why is Evasion better than DBs? Just because Evasion provides Defensive DX that DBs don't?

But, what if you pump up your DBs so that you no longer need Evasion, then you can pour all that mpr into your spell or whatever.

wow good point chuck, now i wish i didn't sell my dbs :(

"But, what if you pump up your DBs so that you no longer need Evasion, then you can pour all that mpr into your spell or whatever"

+150 DBs needed just to beat out DX shots, then more +'s to match enemy pth...

EBs or DBs is a common question that never offers enough detail... :P For simplicity sake, EBs are generally better than DBs with evasion. They provide additional defensive DX, and a boost to the (effect) while adding AC.

But, say you have high enough Evasion so that your defensive DX beats enemy DX, and you have piles and piles of cash to throw into your strat, DBs are better.

[NOTE: following numbers need to be rescaled to fit the 12xp per point thing, but the general concept remains the same]

Say you have 1m evasion, granting (75) effect. with +25 EBs, you can increase this to 1.25m Evasion granting 87 effect. With +25 DBs, you would be accomplishing near the same job, effectwise, but with lower defensive DX. With +75 DBs, you would end up with 1m evasion (only trained level for defensive DX), but 115 effect.

If the EB boost is enough to get you a DX advantage that you wouldn't have without them, they are better, in turn removing more CTH from the final equation. But if you already have (anywhere near) full DX advantage from your trained Evasion level, then the DB are making it much harder for enemy tanks to hit than the EB.

couple other numbers (outdated but still a decent guideline for approximates. If you're shredding it close enough for these to be wrong, then you're likely not going to notice a difference with either boot :P):
At 500k Evasion, +25 EBs will work as well as +12 DBs for pth reduction while sacrificing 125k defensive DX
At 1m Evasion, +25 EBs will work as well as +25 DBs for pth reduction while sacrificing 250k defensive DX
At 1.5m Evasion, +25 EBs will work as well as +31 DBs for pth reduction while sacrificing 375k defensive DX
At 2m Evasion, +25 EBs will work as well as +45 DBs for pth reduction while sacrificing 500k defensive DX

chuck, it was EBs or DBs... not evasion

If you want a definitive answer you have to turn to google. It's now beyond reproach that EBs are better than DBs - I mean c'mon, would you be seen dead walking about in what google images drags up for DBs..?

lol, GBeee, were those seen on MJ last ;)

Drudge, i know the question is EBs or DBs, but EBs relate to the Evasion skill, so i felt it could be better phrased that way. I don't know if DBs are as effective in preventing ranged hits as Evasion is [more power to the EBs], but there is the mpr drain from Evasion, which can be prevented by pouring USD into DBs.

Hatch, that's some nice math you have done, but could you entirely do away with Evasion, and wearing just DBs survive the ranged hits?