Question about UC (in General)

forktoad March 31 2008 8:37 PM EDT

What should be the appropriate level as compared to UC level in order to produce optimum skill effect?

forktoad March 31 2008 8:38 PM EDT

Sorry for the double post. I meant strength level as compared to UC level

AdminQBVerifex [Serenity In Chaos] March 31 2008 8:47 PM EDT

UC is dead, long live ranged combat.

QBJohnnywas March 31 2008 8:48 PM EDT

There's not really an 'appropriate' level. You need UC to be as high as you can get it; I always used to train UC the same way I would a DD spell, just pump it as high as it can go and boost it as much as you can with Helms, Gi and elven gear. But you also need your guy to be strong and fast; so you need as much strength and dex as you can manage. No point in a wimpy tank, it doesn't matter how much you can dodge your opponents if you can't kill them.....

Relic March 31 2008 8:48 PM EDT

There is no optimum level ST to UC ratio. The higher your UC, the higher your base damage, and coupled with ST you can do more damage.

TheHatchetman March 31 2008 8:49 PM EDT

Short version:

I don't believe there is an "ideal ratio" or even anywhere close to an approximate...

Long version:

UC takes a lot of XP to really go anywhere. When ya first first start off, I would advise a base UC, relying on your HGs and/or Gi for boosting. This will allow you to get your HP/ST/DX to decent levels when you're still low enough for 1k in a stat to make a difference ;) Once the levels of your opponents become more spread apart, start pumping heavy HP and UC. The effect of UC is it's pth, so by raising that, you are effectively raising your CTH, whereas training DX when you already have the DX advantage gains you nothing, and the UC effect will tend to have a far greater toll on your damage than your ST in the mid levels. UC's inherrant evasion is also wickedly powerful. From there, it's all down to going by feel... See what you'll need for the next group of opponents, and train that, I guess...

forktoad March 31 2008 9:11 PM EDT

Can someone give me an approximate of the base damage offered per level of UC?

Lumpy Koala March 31 2008 9:11 PM EDT

Take that !!

Unarmed Combat 7,196,425 2,900,000 206 130

AND YOU KNOW WHAT??!! It's still rubbish :) So don't plunge yourself in, just get a nice looking melee weap like everyone else or ROBF + evasion :P

Organ Doughner [Fees Dirt Cheap] March 31 2008 9:13 PM EDT

/me hates RoBF

Ulord[NK] March 31 2008 9:26 PM EDT

UC is the unloved bastard child of tank class. The PTH is kinda sweet though. Defensive build is almost mandatory. RoBF will probably outdamage you :/

theskier [Star Trek] March 31 2008 9:51 PM EDT

I am currently using UC... and this is my current stats for UC

Level Raw effect raw
Unarmed Combat 804,263 279,142 61 27

I am currently fighting around 1 million score. I have the trained levels equal HP, Stregth, dex and skill

The Skier

QBBarzooMonkey March 31 2008 10:00 PM EDT

After 3 full years of stubbornly using and promoting UC, I am finally abandoning it now... it's stale...

Lumpy Koala March 31 2008 10:04 PM EDT

LOL good for ya Barzoo, I am still stuck with it :P Spent too much on the gears hehehe

Lumpy Koala March 31 2008 10:33 PM EDT

And here you go, the ultimate nonsense of CB!

Unarmed Combat 8,276,277 3,402,555 220 142

Wizard'sFirstRule April 1 2008 2:39 AM EDT

UC is probably due for some buff. like a shield that give lots of UC.

AdminNightStrike April 1 2008 3:27 AM EDT

forktoad -- Take it from someone who invested everything into UC..... it is completely worthless. DO NOT USE IT!

IndependenZ April 1 2008 3:40 AM EDT

Here's mine...

Unarmed Combat: 140 / 76

Lumpy Koala and NS, be sure to talk to me when you start selling that UC stuff. ;) Somehow I still think UC is fun, although yeah, it gets surpassed by every other spell, skill or tattoo in the game.

forktoad, think this through. What do you want out of it? Get into the 6/20 BA refresh rate? Be competitive around your level? Because UC is just for kicks nowadays, nothing more. :)
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