random help in strats :) (in General)

lostling April 15 2008 5:08 AM EDT

was thinking we should randomly select a person's strat and pull it apart :) items/lvls trained and what could be improved and such...

/me points at....... Johnnywas (truely random)

QBJohnnywas April 15 2008 5:12 AM EDT

lol, I'll sit back and watch.

Eccle123 April 15 2008 6:24 AM EDT

i know nothing bout strats, but why have 2 characters that seemingly do nothing

BluBBen April 15 2008 10:56 AM EDT

Johnny, why do you got the EH on your second Mage wall? Wouldn't it be better if the EH gets pounded while the DD resistance is as high as possible?

QBOddBird April 15 2008 10:59 AM EDT

What's wrong with JW's strat? 2 MM blockers, ToE resistance on top of MgS, TSA regen, AMF, and Evasion against the tanks.

Only thing I'd do is make sure that Evasion got some massive buffage, strat-wise.

As far as gears go, I'd just keep the TSA on the 3rd minion to regen against FB while the back minion held the EH and held off MMs as long as possible.

BluBBen April 15 2008 11:02 AM EDT

Another thing is the his CoC minion always will be killed by any decent size AMF. but as he already are 4 minions that can't really be changed. Maybe by changing out the AMFs for AS or something. But that would make a pretty radical change to his strat, not a small adjustment.

BluBBen April 15 2008 11:04 AM EDT

(sorry for multiple posts)

Johnny, can we please get all your chars data? Like levels trained and so on? And if you got the time I would really like to see what size your items are.

QBJohnnywas April 15 2008 12:26 PM EDT

I won't bother detailing too much, because there isn't much there. Mage minion was single minion until 750k MPR. The other three were only bought just over a week ago at the lower price.

The CoC is 1,403,845 (boosted with +15 CoI, 1,242,34 without). The evasion is sitting at 117. Which isn't enough to take on a lot of the tanks at this level. Evasion is noticeably weaker than it was on my way up with my last character, despite what some people say.

This team is basically a rehash of one of my very first 'successful' teams. Apart from the evasion it is aimed at taking care of other mage teams. Hence two mage shield walls, the AMF and the ToE, all working together to strip down incoming spread damage.

Actually I said other mage teams, but it was originally designed to take on single FB mages, especially the ones with familiars, or better still other minions. The combination of the lack of my own ranged attack and the reduction of their damage would pull the FB team into melee, where they helped destroy themselves with friendly fire.

QBJohnnywas April 15 2008 12:27 PM EDT

Oh and good catch on the EH, I'd had two of those on there at first. I was trying the TSA out and must have moved people around and forgotten!

QBJohnnywas April 15 2008 12:28 PM EDT

Oh and apart from the protection, there is no defensive enchantments because of DM. Which seems to be the spell of choice for a FB mage...

lostling April 15 2008 12:41 PM EDT

my take on it :)

personally i would rather use 2 TSA for the walls... more AC on those walls would most probably help :)

might want to try AOI on the evader/COC mage... i would love a TSA on the mage too but yea =x

perhaps a corn on the AMF enchanter

if nobody has anything else to say we shall let johnnywas pick the next target :)

QBJohnnywas April 15 2008 1:09 PM EDT

I've tried TSA on the mage; it works well, but I lose 200k worth of CoC doing so. TSA or EH on the walls give me the same results pretty much. The walls are just too small to notice the difference. The same would be true of the extra AC. The thing that really makes the difference is having the kill slots and of course the mage shields. Later on, it might be different. Also where AC is concerned because the minions are so small the ENC limit is pretty low - 10 mill or so. Which doesn't give me much room for manoeuvre .

Later on we'll see. :)

I quite like Glory's team Bleys.

Brakke Bres [Ow man] April 15 2008 1:55 PM EDT

diluted coc?

lostling April 15 2008 7:49 PM EDT

ok my take on glorys's bleys team...

i wonder why the AOL is on the 2nd minion.... and as i love to say.. TSA would pwn that EH....

why HoE instead of HOC... unless you cant hit any body in the 1st ranged round

thats all i guess
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