Possible UC bug? (in General)
I'm hitting people a lot. I'm not missing evasion minions. I can hit dudemus, and Proteus 4, a solid and consistent one time per melee round each. JS has on some big DBs and an AoI and an RoBF, and I occasionally double-hit him.
JS pointed out that, since he has about 230-ish minus PTH, my 247 level UC and my slight DX advantage over him shouldn't be giving me double-hits against him. Should I be getting more than 87% DX-based cth against him, really?
For dude and proteus, I think I'm at a DX disadvantage against both, given the amount of defensive DX that Evasion confers. I have about just over 3mil DX, so I figure I'm at about 3/5ths of their defensive DX. That gives me, what, a 20% cth? Less? then I have 247 UC PTH, minus whatever their Evasion effects are, and it comes out to right around 100 cth.
I've heard rumors about one-handed weapons having a higher base cth than 2-handed weapons. Is UC given an even better base cth, due to the fact that no weapon-wielding is needed at all? Or does a portion of the UC level double as extra offensive DX, in the same way that Evasion offers defensive DX?
June 17 2008 3:59 PM EDT
Against my evasion when at an effect of 180, CC double hits my mage in the first round of melee. Not sure if that's a bug or not, just putting that out there for additional data.
The level effect is abou 3.6 milion.
UC gets 1.2x its lvl as pth, and base to-hit of 50 (in between 1h and 2h)
Added to-hit data to post-battle stats.
WHOA... to hit... whoa...
June 17 2008 4:06 PM EDT
That's some nice PTH!!!
Makes me want to go UC again!!
on a side note I think threads in which Jon has posted should have italic titles...
June 17 2008 4:31 PM EDT
So, I'm confused on this. How is it affecting vs other teams? My NCB, C Easy Kill, has been unable to hit teams about 10k under my MPR. My ELB is only a +21 but I have a Dx advantage over all of them as far as I can tell unless I'm seriously missing something.
And if I'm reading that right, I might as well just go UC now.
June 17 2008 4:36 PM EDT
Unarmed Combat and the Halidon Familiar are the answer to Evasion
June 17 2008 4:43 PM EDT
Lol, I was just thinking that earlier! Jon, I like your style!
June 17 2008 5:04 PM EDT
Wow, that's very nice. PTH for the win :D
Oh nice. 296 melee to-hit? Oh NICE!
Weren't people saying UC was underpowered once you get past 100k MPR, back when I started this NCB? Does anyone still feel it needs a buff?
I feel good.
this isn't a new change (to UC)... sorry if it didn't get broadcast well :)
omg, UC is godly. makes me want to retrain to level.
"Does anyone still feel it needs a buff?"
PTH is not damage done. The biggest issue with UC is that when you hit, it's a weak punch. Combine that with the fact that you are spreading XP between HP, ST, DX, and UC, and there's an overall weak character in comparison to a straight tank.
June 17 2008 10:17 PM EDT
But still it's a very interesting skill. I think I will try it out :P MM isn't great either
"PTH is not damage done. The biggest issue with UC is that when you hit, it's a weak punch. Combine that with the fact that you are spreading XP between HP, ST, DX, and UC, and there's an overall weak character in comparison to a straight tank."
it does seem to be a robf killer though. our rock, paper & scissors triad is becoming more multi-faceted it appears.
June 18 2008 12:32 AM EDT
Ranged Base to-Hit: 100
Ranged Bonus to-Hit: 204
June 18 2008 12:34 AM EDT
For the DX portion:
Carnagie cast Ethereal Chains on all enemy Minions (4114294)
June 18 2008 12:38 AM EDT
Triple post, but I keep forgetting info.
Powered Exoskeleton lvl 5,410,202
So OB beats me because he has 204 PTH plus a DX advantage over me.
Speaking of which, is maximum DX advantage cth still 160, to be added onto the "melee bonus to hit" number? I.E., do I actually have 456 effective cth against 20 DX non-Evasion enchanters?
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