Any penalties for Bow + Shield ? (in General)

Sickone August 20 2008 1:19 AM EDT

Is a bow considered a 2h melee weapon, a 1h melee weapon, or no melee weapon at all for DX/CTH/whatever penalty purposes with a shield equipped ?
I just can't find that written anywhere cleartext in the Wiki.

iBananco [Blue Army] August 20 2008 1:38 AM EDT

No penalty.

Flatcap [East Milwaukee Devival] August 20 2008 4:01 AM EDT

If I remember right a bow is counted as a 2h weapon in melee rounds and will receive the dex penalty. They also receive a 60% penalty to PTH and Dex during melee

PearsonTritonRaveshaw August 20 2008 4:03 AM EDT

Only a 60% dex penalty in melee, it doesn't suffer both PTH and dex penalties. That would be absurd....

Flatcap [East Milwaukee Devival] August 20 2008 4:04 AM EDT

"Minions using Bows during Melee combat will suffer a penalty of 60% to DX and plus to-hit (PTH). "

Straight from the Wiki.

Cube August 20 2008 8:15 AM EDT

IIRC it is also 60% pth.

Sickone August 20 2008 8:27 AM EDT

I meant in ranged combat.
Does having a shield cause any DX (or any other) penalties in RANGED rounds when using a bow ?

superior me August 20 2008 9:11 AM EDT


superior me August 20 2008 9:12 AM EDT

unless your using a shield that has a negative dex bonus already =)

Sickone August 20 2008 9:28 AM EDT

Well, let's say a BoM like the one you're using.
Wiki says...

"No penalty to DX and Skills with 1-handed melee weapons.
Negative 12% to DX and Skills with 2-handed melee weapons. "

So, you say a bow is considered a 1-handed melee weapon for DX penalty purposes IN RANGED, right ?

Flatcap [East Milwaukee Devival] August 20 2008 9:56 AM EDT

Well I just tested my bow out with a kite shield equipped and the only dex drop was from the shield stats, the bow had no effect on dexterity. So to answer your question, A bow is considered a 1h weapon for ranged purposes.

j'bob August 20 2008 11:19 PM EDT

I was once informed that the DX (and more importantly to me at the time, SKILLS) penalty from a shield is in affect even with NO weapon equipped. With no weapon equipped you receive the 1 handed penalty. Just some FYI, and yes, that included ranged.
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