MPB (in General)


3D September 12 2008 10:29 AM EDT

Just wondering, why isn't there a magic damage largest blow?

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] September 12 2008 10:32 AM EDT

mages are here to be fodder for physical damage types and thus do not matter. if that ever changes or mages get too much bling, then all the tanks quit or reroll. ; )

Brakke Bres [Ow man] September 12 2008 10:35 AM EDT

http://www.carnageblender.com/faq/one?scope=public&faq_id=145#13

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] September 12 2008 10:35 AM EDT

the argument was always that you would just find the person with the largest Cone of Cold and calculate from that level...

having lost the MPB stat to a bug... (mmm bias)

I'd like to see the stat just go away.

3D September 12 2008 10:40 AM EDT

Well, finding the largest CoC is like finding the larget BoNE with biggest STR. Same thing, is it not?

3D September 12 2008 10:40 AM EDT

And just make the MPB for DD ignore Decay, obviously. If that were possible, I woulnd't know.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] September 12 2008 10:42 AM EDT

but the damage formulas for weapons aren't open... no way to consistently calculate it

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] September 12 2008 10:42 AM EDT

Now a MPB for magic would be worthwile. It's not jus tthe largest CoC wins. SG has changed that, especially when facing a boost from base AC.

Let's have a Magical MPB! :P

Brakke Bres [Ow man] September 12 2008 10:49 AM EDT

Well I can think of one reason why this will never happen:

Jon thinks its stupid.

QBsutekh137 September 12 2008 10:58 AM EDT

I agree, Henk, it's just that if that is the case, why not do away with it now entirely?

How is anyone ever going to get beyond the largest MPB now unless one (or more of the following happens):

-- Free retrain.
-- Physical damage is increased again (it is going to take a LONG time to make up for the recent reductions).
-- Ammo comes back allowing it to be pumped up.

There is no ammo any more, physical damage has been reduced, and even a free retrain is a stretch (though there some big singleton teams out there, still).

I agree that a magic MPB is somewhat silly, but so is a physical one at this point. Do away with the concept entirely.

Paddy Boy September 12 2008 1:40 PM EDT

I'd like to be able to see my own MPB. I don't really care about anyone else's.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] September 12 2008 1:49 PM EDT

I always wanted to be able to reset your own MPB. But G let me know that could only be done by resetting your entire character. :(

TheHatchetman September 12 2008 2:18 PM EDT

"There is no ammo any more, physical damage has been reduced, and even a free retrain is a stretch (though there some big singleton teams out there, still). "

LA could retrain his mage to all ST, then all his other minions to all GS. After which, he would of course equip Freed's bow, and shoot my VB (SY'd to a BoNE) out of it at a 0AC minion... Doing all of this would net him roughly half of even novice's MPB (as set by SNK3R, i believe) :P

Goodfish September 12 2008 5:19 PM EDT

I agree that MPB is a completely useless, arbitrary stat. Delete it and add something better in its place. ;)

BadFish September 12 2008 5:24 PM EDT

"I'd like to be able to see my own MPB. I don't really care about anyone else's."

Just inspect your own character.

Lord Bob September 12 2008 5:33 PM EDT

"I agree that a magic MPB is somewhat silly, but so is a physical one at this point. Do away with the concept entirely."

Agreed, especially since the values are based off old unbalanced numbers anyway.

Paddy Boy September 13 2008 7:04 AM EDT

"Just inspect your own character."

You inspect it :P

It's mage-tastically delicious!

IndependenZ September 13 2008 7:12 AM EDT

I like the MPB stat, it gives me an indication of the maximum amount of VA I should train to keep it effective. :)
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