Lowering BA regen rate (in General)


Wizard'sFirstRule October 22 2008 8:12 AM EDT

Would Jon consider lowering the regen rate to 6/40 or 10/40 and lower the BA soft cap to 80, as well as doubling XP and money? That way there is less mindless clicking and more thinking about strategy. The actual "training" part is pretty mindless.

QBJohnnywas October 22 2008 8:21 AM EDT

Since Jon lowered the regen rate from 10/10 to 10/20 we actually have less players. The two things may not be linked, but I suspect that some people went because there was less clicking...

As things stand my 6/20 is a lot less about mindless clicking as it is.

The current rate means I don't miss any BA whatsoever. Lowering the regen rate further means nobody will miss any BA, which in my opinion makes for a lazier game. Lazier games tend to become boring pretty quickly for a lot of people.

FailBoat[SG] [Forever Alone] October 22 2008 8:23 AM EDT

So... Double the amount of time it takes to -get- BA and then halve the amount of BA you can have at any given moment? Doesn't really seem like it would work out in my eyes.

Especially since I don't want to sit there and hunt for people who give me 100% Bonus, I like the mindless clicking.

Wizard'sFirstRule October 22 2008 8:27 AM EDT

you would still get your BA cap in the same amount of time, but having to click through 160 BA at 1.30am when I am really tired is a bit of a chores.

QBJohnnywas October 22 2008 8:29 AM EDT

Just as a matter of interest, the following is from the changelog when Jon changed the BA regen before:

"QBRanger May 9 2007 10:24 AM EDT Has anyone but Jon been watching the "activwe players" count?

It is at 400 now, but I forget what it was when this changes started.

Sacredpeanut May 9 2007 10:50 AM EDT It was 348 at April 23 if that helps "


Today it's sitting at 263 active players in the last seven days.

FailBoat[SG] [Forever Alone] October 22 2008 8:33 AM EDT

"you would still get your BA cap in the same amount of time, but having to click through 160 BA at 1.30am when I am really tired is a bit of a chores." - Godwolf Clone

Then don't do it at 1:30 in the morning. Choosing to wake up at that time is just that, a choice.

I believe Ranger stated once that to get to the top, you have to make some sacrifices. I remember for a while listening to people talk about waking up two times during the night to burn BA, having set three alarms. One for the first 3 hours, one for the second and one for work in the morning.

QBsutekh137 October 22 2008 10:01 AM EDT

Not to mention, this would make rewards have to double. Losses would hurt a LOT, especially for a new player working up the ranks and experimenting with their fight list. Bonus would have to be increased to account for the massive reward loss from non-wins.

Just look at the limiting case -- let's say we just went down to 10 BA a month. If you had one loss, you would be losing a full 10% of experience/cash gain and would quickly chuck in the towel.

Even worse, imagine a mistake made on a forge cycle involving 20-30 BA! OUCH!

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] October 22 2008 10:04 AM EDT

i too feel that it is pretty good where it now is.

Kefeck [Demonic Serenity] October 22 2008 10:09 AM EDT

Yeah sorry but this is a bad idea.

th00p October 22 2008 11:28 AM EDT

I was opposed to the original reduction as I said people would be around less to have to fight, therefor our beloved community, both chat and forums, would die down. I've seen these changes (whether it be from the change or not, you decide) but I am FULLY opposed to reducing it even more. I'm all for changing it back to 6/10 through 10/10, but I know that's extremely unlikely until CB3 at the very least.

Kefeck [Demonic Serenity] October 22 2008 11:33 AM EDT

Jon's having trouble finishing one spell, he cant even do a change-month. Dont expect cb3 for a while..

Sickone October 22 2008 11:57 AM EDT

Personally I'm all for "BA cap at 24 full regen for one day at highest BA regen rate".
Then you can have as fast/slow BA regen rate as you like, even back to 10/10 (but then the BA cap would have to be 10*3*24=720 instead of 160).

Lord Bob October 22 2008 11:57 AM EDT

I like the way it is now, though I would like to see the rates tweaked as a replacement for the N*B.

Sickone October 22 2008 11:58 AM EDT

Ungh, I'm slightly woozy from the meds today. Ungh. I meant:

Personally I'm all for "BA cap at full regen for one day at the highest BA regen rate".
Then you can have as fast/slow BA regen rate as you like, even back to 10/10 (but then the BA cap would have to be 10*6*24=1440 instead of 160).
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