Woman arrested for killing virtual reality husband (in General)


tasuki [UFC] October 23 2008 1:27 PM EDT

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/TECH/ptech/10/23/avatar.murder.japan.ap/

What's the consequences of dying in Maple Story?

Kefeck [Demonic Serenity] October 23 2008 1:30 PM EDT

she got arrested for hacking not killing the virtual husband.

Papa Bear [G6] October 23 2008 1:35 PM EDT

not even for hacking its on the suspicion of hacking

AdminQBVerifex [Serenity In Chaos] October 23 2008 2:02 PM EDT

Uh oh, considering the amount of killing people have done in CyberGen, I'm willing to bet they would have atleast 5 GTA stars on their screens by now.

PearsonTritonRaveshaw October 23 2008 2:06 PM EDT

To me, she's been wrongly imprisoned. The man gave her his password (while they were "married"), therefore she was granted rights to his character. He divorced her, she deleted him. Simple as that. This whole "suspicion of illegally accessing a computer and manipulating electronic data" is complete nonsense. I'm pretty darned sure if the man gave her his password, then she would have used her own computer to carry out the "murder," and therefore would not have "illegally accessed" a computer. Oh, and in the act of making this post, I successfully manipulated electronic data in one form or another. Arrest me.

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] October 23 2008 2:09 PM EDT

the moral of this story is that when changing women one should also remember to change passwords! ; )

Obscurans October 23 2008 2:12 PM EDT

Rave+1

She doesn't sound anywhere near a fully-fledged hacker in the story.

Phaete October 23 2008 2:29 PM EDT

If i give someone the key to my house, they can still be arrested for stealing stuff from it.

So if i give my password to someone....

This is just another example of governments etc. seeking and trying out new legislation on the new areas.
It will take a lot of tries, resistance and unfairness before we get some general accepted legislation.

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] October 23 2008 2:38 PM EDT

Dutch Students arrested for online crime
If you guys thought this story was funny check out this article.

PearsonTritonRaveshaw October 23 2008 2:42 PM EDT

"If i give someone the key to my house, they can still be arrested for stealing stuff from it."

Tangible items. It's completely different with virtual data.

All MMO staff warn the players about giving their passwords out to people, and in this case the guy obviously ignored that, and payed the price.

Phaete October 23 2008 3:07 PM EDT

AG Titan,

Your example is not so nice, as it actually involved physical violence of 2 older kids.

Brakke Bres [Ow man] October 23 2008 3:07 PM EDT

" AG Titan 2:38 PM EDT
Dutch Students arrested for online crime
If you guys thought this story was funny check out this article."

You didn't read the dutch article did you?

Its not the fact that items were 'stolen' but the fact the boy knew each other and the older ones threatened him with a knife in real life.
Nothing funny about that is there?

PearsonTritonRaveshaw October 23 2008 3:15 PM EDT

Titan might have assumed it happened within the game.

Godpanda October 23 2008 4:37 PM EDT

Just because something is virtual hardly makes it okay to take. If it was, then I could LEGALLY go into the federal databases to look up whatever I wanted. Including every piece of information on, say, you. The person reading this.

There have to be laws to govern these things and governments are having a heck of a time establishing them. In this case, it boils down to whether he freely gave the password to her to play or if she just happened to know it. Family tend to know alot of things about each other, even when never specifically told.

If she just -knew- and used the password to delete the account, of COURSE she should be punished. Then again, if it says in the ToS (as many games do) that all ingame material is still owned by the produced of the game, how can he be upset if he never owned it in the first place (legally, I mean).

If he told her the password, then obviously she was meant to access the account and change it. That would include deleting it.


Honestly, there isn't sufficient information to base any real guesses as to whether this is right or wrong. Though, for those of you so gungho about he got what he deserved, keep in mind how you'd feel if a family member did it to you. Because don't kid yourself, they probably could.


*goes to change his PWs to something his brother won't guess*

Wizard'sFirstRule October 23 2008 5:40 PM EDT

the following are details of my bank account, social security numbers and drivers license details, enjoy:

*in order to protect the innocent, this details has been suppressed by the Protection of Innocent Person Agency Ltd*

SundariZelia [The Knighthood] October 23 2008 5:53 PM EDT

I did have something similar happen to me in a game one and my RS account was hacked at the library, and while I was upset and angry, in the end they're just games and I moved on, made more money and got more stuff. Messing up someones account like that is wrong but arresting someone in real life over game happenings is taking things a bit too far.

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] October 23 2008 6:18 PM EDT

Yah sorry didn't ready the dutch version, I don't speak dutch. Also, on BBC they broadcasted it as being for the scamming, no mention of threatening.

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] October 23 2008 6:20 PM EDT

Ohh, and btw, the reason they were arrested was for the scamming.

"The two were convicted to 360 hours of community service between them. "These virtual goods are goods (under Dutch law), so this is theft," said the court in its ruling."

BadFish October 23 2008 6:29 PM EDT

They threatened a 13-year old with a KNIFE and the crime the courts were concerned about was the scamming of virtual items?

PearsonTritonRaveshaw October 23 2008 7:13 PM EDT

Yeah, go figure.

Little Anthony October 23 2008 7:55 PM EDT

i think if you sexual harass CB players in chat, you could actually go to jail :P

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] October 23 2008 8:20 PM EDT

/me goes to arrest Rave.

th00p October 23 2008 9:12 PM EDT

LA: that's just called a normal day in chat.

Goodfish October 23 2008 9:28 PM EDT

Generally I'm _worried_ if chat isn't rife with either innuendo or harassment of one of our players of the "fairer sex".
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