T34: Duct Tape Wars (in Contests)
T34: Duct Tape Wars
This tournament will end on the 10th, it has already begun (/facepalm)
You may not use Decay
You may use lesser tattoos
You may not buy items via auctions from any player participating in the
tournament, including yourself.
You may not sell items to the store with your non-tournament character, in
order to buy them or transfer them to another tournament character.
You may not retire your tournament character unless you plan on creating a new
tournament character, or quitting the tournament. Please chatmail Slayer333 if
you retire your tournament character early.
You must use at least 1/2 of the BA cap to be eligible for a prize in any
You may not intentionally "gimp" a character so that it is beatable by
You must have two minions, one of them must exclusively train
How Do I Win?
Have the highest win/loss ratio!
You may only fight other tournament characters after the 5th of November.
A Blacksword of Nan Elmoth [92x125] (+20)
An Enforcer's Crossbow [4x59] (+18)
A Tattoo of Augmentation lvl 314,189
An Amulet of Invisibility  (+10)
A Cloak of the Istari  (+3)
One Million CBD.
A Mageseeker [5x350] (+46)
A Pair of Beleg's Gloves  (+11)
A Helm of Clearsight [-5] (+8)
Tournament by: Novice
You must use at least 1/2 of the BA cap to be eligible for a prize in any tournament.
Whats the cap?
the BA cap should be at 2500 now, I retired everyones characters because I altered the bonus and BA cap, I'll add an extra day to the tournament as well, I thought I had this set to begin next week :x
it is showing my t character as retired after i just got my lesser, say it isn't so!
all lesser tattoos? sweet ^
i started a new character and already got another lesser. since there aren't many available though, if ya can pull mine off my retired t34 character, please put it in auctions so someone else can get one.
November 3 2008 3:28 PM EST
Do stalemate and draws count as losses?
won / total battles - won
if i remember correctly, not sure though.
and we'll see if I can get lesser tattoos for everyone from Jon, I've asked already
Participation prize is still BA based, 85% of total BA must be used
November 3 2008 4:46 PM EST
I don't think that only allowing fights against other tournament characters is bad since there are only 4 tournament characters right now.
You have until the 5th to fight normal characters
I actually have exams coming up. have fun on this tourny.
plenty of tats out there... make a FS/WTB asking people to put them in auctions
November 3 2008 6:57 PM EST
So this tournament ends on Monday, November 10th?
November 3 2008 6:58 PM EST
Sorry, didn't see it at the top.
November 4 2008 11:56 AM EST
Retired. Not gonna have time this week to finish this tournament. That and my cpu is acting up.
weak... retiring is kinda mean spirited in a t where you have to fight only other tourney chars... hopefully he'll be the last...
I'd like to see the next tourney restrict attacking other tourney chars entirely...
i agree, i wish there was some way that slayer could keep the retired characters alive for fodder at least, since we really don't get all that many participants. transfer them and keep them alive!
November 4 2008 9:13 PM EST
can I hit non tourney characters on the 5th?
usually this means that after midnight on the fifth, server time, you can only attack other tourney characters.
until the 5th? that reads to me like we're stuck as of two hours ago
midnight on the 5th, since the tourney was extended by a day.
you are correct, i read it as they have been in the past which has been after a certain date. i would play it safe and just fight t characters. in the future, setting noon server time on a certain date would alleviate this issue.
November 5 2008 8:38 PM EST
Jeez people are so much higher than me in the tournament!
This tourney got lame quick after everyone went out to purchase the biggest lesser.
November 5 2008 8:45 PM EST
What's wrong with purchasing the biggest lesser?
Its not fair, why dont you think were normally not allowed to use tats? Not everyone can get them. Plus it drives the price up. Just think of the nubs that could not get a tat because people like me entered this tourney 8 times and bought 8 lesser's. I think slayer should of got a set of base tats and passed them out as people created charactors and that would be the tat your stuck with no upgrading.
November 5 2008 11:40 PM EST
Why would someone enter this tournament 8 times and buy 8 lessers?
Thats really beside the point.
November 6 2008 9:45 AM EST
Why would somebody enter 8 times? That's just...odd.
I'll just talk to slayer about it.
November 6 2008 9:54 AM EST
Uhm, aren't you only allowed to fight tournament characters after the 5th? Defiant is still attacking regular people
i had a dream...
back when jon originally asked for ideas on tournaments, i believe i posted most of what follows, but there may be some revisions now that i have played many of them.
for tournaments to truly be fair and fun for all, i think slayer needs to have a tournament creation page with check boxes or drop downs for all of the variables including equipment. so for this current tournament, he would choose number of minions ~ 2. limits on skills, spells & ability. minion 1 can "only" train "ec" minion 2 can train "any."
each t member will spawn with ~ lesser tat of choice. (in this section it would have checkboxes for all items in game. if it would be too hard for jon to program the tat of choice, then tournaments would just have to be more specific where we all have the same tat to work with.
participants would basically spawn with the items needed for the tournamnet, and no other transactions would be allowed for tournament characters other than through the blacksmith. no auctions and no store purchases.
we could change minion order, but if chosen by the tournament master, then we would only be able to train certain skills, spells or abilities and this would be set on a per minion basis.
i wish this would have been implemented from the start. i know that now it would likely be a lot of work for the amount of participation in tourneys, but i do think with fairer, easier to implement and monitor tournaments we would have more participation.
^there would also be options for duration, bonus amount, both xp and monetary, as well as starting ba, ba cap, etc.
November 6 2008 10:00 AM EST
Am I wrong?
you are correct, pm him and make sure he knows the rules and if he doesn't stop then pm slayer. that is how most of us usually handle these things.
November 6 2008 10:02 AM EST
Ok, will do
crap, I just nuked my chance... learn me to wake up and fight before I'm awake enough to remember I need to change my fightlist...
I've screwed up and forgot to update my fightlist so I'm going to drop out of the tournament. Sorry everyone. Best of luck to all!
Yep, this one is going to be a one or two person fight list grind...
No more of these tourneys until we figure out how to get some more people into the T.
the idea was solid and fun though! ; )
November 6 2008 10:35 AM EST
Same with Solare :(
November 6 2008 10:38 AM EST
I think it would attract more if it was like a separate "Realm" so it was only tournament characters with Dudemus' idea for setting it up. that would be kinda cool, I dunno, just thought like adding my 2 cents
take dudes idea and allow the settings to be altered by mortals...
scrimmage style tourneys!
Setup an hour long tourney where you start with 5m mpr chars and massive weapons!....*drrroooool*
oh, thanks nov, that was in my original idea way back when to be able to start people with an adjustable amount of xp as well!
I'd love to have what you described, and I've asked for things along those lines, but that takes a lot of work and Jon has other things in mind for CB as well :)
So what about this tourney?
Who didn't end up fighting non T chars after midnight for at least 10 fights?
November 6 2008 3:46 PM EST
Didn't SK... not did... I assumed you're saying that you remembered to only fight T chars as of 11:59?
November 6 2008 3:49 PM EST
Might it be possible to still get the participation prize even if we've disqualified ourselves by making this mistake?
November 6 2008 4:13 PM EST
Is RoBF damage reduced by AC?
I figure if I'm disqualified from winning, then me fighting isn't fair... I'm done.
i would think that with the mistakes getting this thing rolling, or heck even without those, that slayer would be fairly forgiving...i know i am. i guess we await word from him though.
Because people have already retired because of rule infractions, I'll enforce the no non-tourney characters rule, I don't think we will use this one in the future though.
If you have fought a non-tournament character, please retire and feel free to begin a new character.
perhaps we should rename this one the attrition tourney! it would be quite difficult to start over at this point with the tourney character only rule in place. i hope the character you created can be attacked slayer.
November 6 2008 6:54 PM EST
Serialkiller's character used Decay against me for a time. If my character is being retired for such a minor reason, I think its only fair to disqualify him as well, even if he only used it for a few matches before I told him to stop.
November 6 2008 7:20 PM EST
huh, I fought against you with decay for 2 fights because I thought the rule said that decay can be used, and you fight against non-tournament characters for 100+ fights. I don't really think it's fair to make me retire my character.
November 6 2008 7:26 PM EST
Yeah it is, the rules about when you could no longer fight non-tourny chars wasn't really clear to begin with, "after November 5th" means after midnight, so I really didn't take it into account to think it meant EST or 'server time.' It was an easy mistake to make, and its not like it had a huge impact on my performance. And once I got a message saying I shouldn't be fighting them, I stopped.
So something as insignificant as fighting against me 3 times with Decay, should also cause you to be disqualified. Bull crap? I agree; but, if they're going to take the rules to the extreme for me, why shouldn't they for you as well?
It's simply not fair.
And why is novice's character still up and running? I thought he forgot to change his fight-list? Shouldn't his character be DQ'd as well?
sorry forgot to retire...
slayer will have to decide, there is no reason to argue the matter here.
November 6 2008 8:06 PM EST
"so I really didn't take it into account to think it meant EST or 'server time."
If you didn't know, server time and EST are the same.
November 6 2008 8:08 PM EST
Yes, I'm aware of this; and no, that isn't my argument.
As dudemus says, this matter will be up to slayer to decide. Though I hope that decision is a fair one.
fair is a relative term, there is a precedent from other tournaments that if someone makes a simple mistake, it does not go on for long and they stop when asked, that it is not a reason to disqualify that character. so fair in the historical sense with tournaments might not be fair in your eyes for this tournament. i am glad it is not me deciding, especially since i can greatly benefit by the decision made.
November 6 2008 8:18 PM EST
November 6 2008 8:24 PM EST
dudemus: "there is a precedent from other tournaments that if someone makes a simple mistake, it does not go on for long and they stop when asked, that it is not a reason to disqualify that character."
I agree, but if this is true, then I shouldn't have been disqualified in the first place. I think the same precedent should hold for everyone. And you seem to agree with me here, so there is nothing to argue about.
November 6 2008 8:25 PM EST
except that you fought around 160 battles and I fought 3
very true and if i seem to be arguing i apologize. for future reference though all times usually listed in cbland are server time. ; )
November 6 2008 8:29 PM EST
You're arguing against yourself, because thats not the point I'm making. I was replying to dudemus's statement that 'if the person stops when asked' which I did. I hadn't even realized I had made a mistake in the first place. It's not just that I was disqualified going by that 'precedent'; however, if the rules are to be so strictly enforced, then any minor infringement should thusly be handled in the same manner. THAT is the argument I'm making. Don't compare the number of battles; that is irrelevant to what I'm saying.
November 6 2008 8:31 PM EST
It's up to Slayer to decide.
November 9 2008 8:56 PM EST
Boy I am glad that I chose to not plod through this tourney! Looks like it didn't go so well.
November 9 2008 10:03 PM EST
So SK is still eligible? Just out of curiosity.
November 10 2008 2:52 PM EST
I guess since I haven't been retired before, I'll take Set Three.
November 10 2008 6:45 PM EST
November 10 2008 7:13 PM EST
I came in first
dudemus got 2nd
Raw got 3rd
November 10 2008 7:21 PM EST
I want set two or three! :)
November 10 2008 7:28 PM EST
set one sucks :(
i would like set number two please.
November 10 2008 7:42 PM EST
November 12 2008 5:50 PM EST
anyone get prizes yet?
not me, i sent slayer a pm yesterday around this time with no response as of yet.
November 14 2008 3:07 PM EST
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