Ranged shield (in General)

Neo Japan November 17 2008 12:49 PM EST

haven't thought through the details yet, but how about a shield that greatly blocks ranged attacks; so easily upgradable AC, but is discarded during the last round of ranged, so that AC goes back down.

This way, strats that are melee based can have a chance to make it to melee.

no ranged attack can be performed while shield is equipped

no ability to dodge ranged attack, just greatly lower damage

lose shield in last round to get hit by ranged attack, as not to be too powerful.

no penalaties to dx, st, skills in melee

penalties to EO and ED

DD doesn't attack until first round of melee, so i guess FB and MM would be out of the question with this shield.

don't know if this has come up before. took a 3 year hiatis from cb2. glad to be back, the changes are cool. way to keep it fresh Jon.

just need to think of a counter to this shield before i think it could become a reality, can't be overpowered.

QBsutekh137 November 17 2008 1:01 PM EST

Only if it junctions and protects a familiar, otherwise I'm going to have to disagree with this one. Mageseekers still negate huge familiars fairly easily since they can't train evasion and can't protect themselves. Yes, DBs junction, and one can try to depend on AS, but it still doesn't work as well. DM kills the AS, and if not DM, AMF is probably eating the familiar alive already. DD familiars are at a mighty disadvantage on that, and this would simply exalt everyone else defensively while the DD familiars got nothing.

In other words, such a shield would only benefit "real" minions, and that doesn't seem fair to me with Mageseekers in play.

Just one man's opinion, however, other folks might love the idea...

Neo Japan November 17 2008 1:07 PM EST

i don't see why it wouldn't junction, skills are unaffected. just couldn't attack at all.

but i hope its not thought of as over powered as it goes away and you get hit in last round of ranged, and don't have that AC protection of a shield in melee.

maybe even throw in, if you have HoC, mages can hit in last round, no HoC, have to wait until melee.

lostling November 17 2008 1:18 PM EST

lol... have you seen ranged damage recently? it is seriously nthing to brag about... plenty of melee teams around here

Eurynome Bartleby [Bartleby's] November 17 2008 1:20 PM EST

My Jig wants one of those. (If I have read everything correctly.)

BadFish November 17 2008 4:38 PM EST

Not related to the shield idea at all, but that girl in your user pic is FINE.

Neo Japan November 17 2008 5:01 PM EST


j/k, im the Hambugalar

Halloween, 07

FailBoat[SG] [Forever Alone] November 17 2008 5:05 PM EST

Badfish, thats the most intelligent thing said in this entire thread.

As an Archer, I do horridly low damage as it is. But what you're suggesting would force me to retrain and pick up something else. Whats to stop a team from getting two or three "kill slots" and then making them all have this shield. PL'd, it means that NO ranged damage would happen. And even then, in melee, I'm still considered to be using a ranged weapon so I stop doing damage then too...

All hail Mage Blender? Or better yet... Melee Blender!

Yukk November 17 2008 5:08 PM EST

Yeah, I think ranged is practically dead tank-wise. There are a couple of bows out there backed by huge ToAs that are viable, but after a year or so of complaining about evasion, why make it worse. Put on a Shield of Capacity and protect yourself in ranged and melee.

Roachenfuss November 17 2008 5:11 PM EST

A descent sized PL Wall gets my archer into melee with no problem. because of my strat though SFBM and RoS GA are the only times my tank doesn't make it into melee. My fights rarely go over 15 rounds total.

Neo Japan November 17 2008 5:20 PM EST

the shield would be discarded in last ranged round, so bow would work in melee, i was just noticing a lot of my fights can end in ranged and felt bad.

Wizard'sFirstRule November 17 2008 5:33 PM EST

in a way I think there should be enough parts to make a good defense against anything, but will require dedication, like MGS + RBF + Some AC + Elven Harberk (no RBF) + AMF + Other things to hose mage, but doing so means you are that much vulurable against tanks.

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] November 17 2008 7:44 PM EST

Bad bad bad...that's all I've got to say.

Cube November 17 2008 8:40 PM EST

I think ranged damage is dead enough as it is.

Brakke Bres [Ow man] November 18 2008 7:38 AM EST

really? I still get quad hits @ 600k a pop.

Ariac November 18 2008 7:47 AM EST

Too bad they're all on a PL minion.

Neo Japan November 18 2008 9:14 AM EST

I'm picturing one of those HUGE shields on wheels maybe.
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