who can edit tooltips? (in General)

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] January 25 2009 9:53 AM EST

for example, the mouseovers on the items overview page. the new item shows certain stats and i was under the impression that jon and perhaps ns are the only ones that can edit those and that is what we should go by. in the wiki for that item though, people are adding some things that do not show up in the tooltip and was just trying to find out which should be the final word on it?

the tooltip states:

negative 2% to dx and negative 8% to magic, grants armor proficency, .2 pr weight & does not spawn.

i know that novice stated that it also did a negative 2% or something to uc, but that is not stated in the tooltip.

when we do get final confirmation for the wiki, we also need to add that its armor proficiency does not stack with the skill.

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] January 25 2009 10:02 AM EST

actually, none of the tooltips show negatives to dexterity & skills, they pretty much just say "-x to dx", maybe they are all wrong and should state dx and skills as the wiki does for these items?

AdminNightStrike January 25 2009 10:38 AM EST

It's implicit that a penalty to DX confers a penalty to skills.

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] January 25 2009 10:51 AM EST

well i have been playing for six years in march. if i knew that at one time, with all of my experience as a magic user, i must have forgotten it.

it doesn't show up under dex in the glossary in the wiki. perhaps we need to do more than imply it? or is there some limit to text in the tooltips?

for new users, i would think that actually stating it would be less confusing than it just being implied and assuming that everyone understands that implication.

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] January 25 2009 10:58 AM EST

added the stuff to the wiki, at least we can have the explicit facts there! ;)

someone added this though:

Negative 2 to Unarmed Combat (UC) used by the wearer, additional to the Skills penalty.

that definitely isn't stated in the tooltip, can someone verify it?

Brakke Bres [Ow man] January 25 2009 11:08 AM EST

ow I copied that from novice's remark in chat or somewhere. Not sure though can't test it myself since I have no BoE.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] January 25 2009 11:53 AM EST

it's purely anecdotal at this point, I equipped it with a pair of HG and went from 10 UC down to 8.

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] January 25 2009 12:26 PM EST

^this is pretty much why i asked who could edit tooltips, i have assumed it was jon due to the fact that yesterday before the announcement, the effect was not in the tooltip and only added sometime later. if only the 2 devs can add or edit tooltips, then we can assume certain things:

~ when new items are added, that is the source we will take as written in stone for the wiki, since the devs do not do the wiki updates concurrently

~ when effects outside of the tooltips are noticed, we can then assume that they are bugs, as we now face with the uc penalty

i have asked in another thread yesterday, created this thread to which a dev replied but didn't address the main point of the post and now sent a cm to a dev all with no response. ; (
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