Kurt Cobain (in Off-topic)


idiotz April 21 2009 7:26 PM EDT

Well, i'm big on the band Nirvana,and have been since I was very young, over the years I've studied Kurts' "suicide" and I was wondering what CB's opinion on his death is, suicide or murder?

IMO I believe it was murder, unsure of who did it, but I do believe Courtney took part in it somehow.

Warbringer April 21 2009 7:30 PM EDT

why do you think that?

Demigod April 21 2009 7:31 PM EDT

I thought it was clearly suicide. But I don't follow the band, as I'm not a fan.

I think I can see how you'd call it murder, though. If I slept with Courtney Love, I'd want to do the same. Blame her. :)

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- April 21 2009 7:35 PM EDT

Who knows.

idiotz April 21 2009 7:40 PM EDT

1. The biggest thing with anyone that believes that it was murder, the so called "suicide note" if you read it, you don't really find anything suicidal until the end of it, which is where you can notice differences in the ways the letters are made.

2. There was a piece of paper found at the Cobain residence later that had what appeared to be someone trying to copy his handwriting.

3. The fact that he would have died very shortly after injecting all of that heroin, how would he have the strength to hold a shotgun, let alone pull the triger.

4. Kurt was going to stop doing concerts and making CD's and such (the reason for the note IMO), and giving up a 9million dollar deal that Courtney wanted him to do.

5. Supposedly, he was going to divorce Courtney Love.

I'm sure there is more evidence towards it being murder and not suicide, but this is all I know at the moment.

Another reason I made this was to see other peoples evidence on the opposing opinion / maybe more towards this opinion.

TheHatchetman April 21 2009 7:44 PM EDT

モI'm gonna be a superstar musician, kill myself and go out in a flame of glory, just like Jimi Hendrixヤ -Kurt Cobain

idiotz April 21 2009 7:49 PM EDT

But could that have been sarcasm? Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are. - Kurt Cobain.

Lord Bob April 21 2009 7:50 PM EDT

"1. The biggest thing with anyone that believes that it was murder, the so called "suicide note" if you read it, you don't really find anything suicidal until the end of it, which is where you can notice differences in the ways the letters are made."

The difference in the handwriting was twofold.
1. the last part was written after even more heroin.
2. He wrote it at the last moment on an uneven surface, probably the tiles of the garage (was it a garage or shed? I don't remember) where he was known to be before the suicide.

"3. The fact that he would have died very shortly after injecting all of that heroin, how would he have the strength to hold a shotgun, let alone pull the trigger."

It has been stated many times by more credible sources that a regular user would have had enough control to commit the act.

It was clearly, clearly suicide.

QBOddBird April 21 2009 7:51 PM EDT

"Well I was just looking in the mirror the other day, and I saw this hideous guy staring back, and I was like, man, someone really oughta shoot that guy." -- OB mocking Kurt Cobain

Lord Bob April 21 2009 7:51 PM EDT

Oh, and for the record, I remain a huge Nirvana fan.

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- April 21 2009 7:52 PM EDT

If it was clearly suicide, people wouldn't still be debating it on an online forum years after.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 April 21 2009 7:53 PM EDT

People will argue anything for any length of time.

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- April 21 2009 7:54 PM EDT

No Slayer, you're wrong.

=)

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 April 21 2009 7:55 PM EDT

I see wut u did thar.

AdminTal Destra [G6] April 21 2009 7:56 PM EDT

alright jir thats obvious trolling please stop

Lord Bob April 21 2009 7:56 PM EDT

"If it was clearly suicide, people wouldn't still be debating it on an online forum years after."

You overestimate people. They still debate whether the moon landing was a hoax as well, and the JFK assassination, and that "spare change" 9/11 conspiracy crap, and a host of other nonsense as well.

QBOddBird April 21 2009 7:58 PM EDT

he's joking, Tal...*fixes your Admin tag*

Lord Bob, you forgot 'and whether the Elven Stiletto has any worth...'

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- April 21 2009 7:58 PM EDT

Yeah, I know. It wasn't trolling it was humor, please re-read and try to smile =).

idiotz April 21 2009 8:01 PM EDT

Lord Bob, who knows when he wrote it? he could have easily written it at an earlier time, and still, how do you explain the piece of paper which looked as if someone was trying to copy his handwriting? also, he was dead for 3 days or so (not exactly sure) in that greenhouse which is located right near his house, where Courtney Love was most if not all of the time he was still missing. Also, back to the shotgun, there were no finger prints on it, as if it had been wiped clean.

Lord Bob April 21 2009 8:03 PM EDT

"Lord Bob, you forgot 'and whether the Elven Stiletto has any worth...'"

I'm staying out of that one. *grin*

"Yeah, I know. It wasn't trolling it was humor,"

I thought it was funny. Yeah, there's no trolling here.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] April 21 2009 8:34 PM EDT

I can't believe people still don't think the hole... err Courtney shouldn't be rotting in jail. Even if she wasn't responsible for or complicit in his murder she's still the source of all the suck in the universe. Good junkies die young, bad ones linger.

Cube April 21 2009 8:40 PM EDT

Or those that die young don't get enough time to start sucking.

j'bob April 22 2009 12:29 AM EDT

A) Just when I thought the 420 thread was... well.
2) The moon landing WAS faked.
Lastly) Ms. Love could not possibly (IMHO) have had anything to do with anything and not have gotten caught by now. Hello, have any of you even read her lyrics?

And to begin with... FOO FIGHTERS!

BadFish April 22 2009 12:33 AM EDT

I killed Kurt Cobain.

TheHatchetman April 22 2009 4:39 AM EDT

"Ms. Love could not possibly (IMHO) have had anything to do with anything and not have gotten caught by now."

Like... Like... OJ!

j'bob April 22 2009 10:42 AM EDT

Ahhh, but OJ WAS "caught". Just not... "convicted".

(cue mad cackling giggles)

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] April 22 2009 11:09 AM EDT

OJ wrote a book admitting it, I'm waiting for Love's new found drug she will so happily name "I killed him", =P

Daz April 22 2009 11:29 AM EDT

I've been trying to not post this all damned day. I give in.

Demigod April 22 2009 12:01 PM EDT

Daz just earned a point for humor. :)

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- April 22 2009 1:08 PM EDT

Gotta love PA
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