Shield Of Capacity observation (in General)

Interesting. I'm not sure if this has been observed elsewhere, but in addition to providing damage output when the exbow has drained all strength, the SoC damage 'flash' is also not absorbed by PL.

Sorry if this is old news, but it's new to me.

:)

For example:

Johnny Was's shield flashes! [371,395]
Johnny Was bruised squawk with Red Rose [195281]
Cocka absorbs damage [195281]
Johnny Was tapped squawk with Red Rose [198064]
Cocka absorbs damage [198064]
Johnny Was burns from the flames surrounding Cluck Cluck (1108787)

Well another counter to PL. :)

Johnny, PL absorbed all the damage there?

To clarify, the 'flash' isn't damage in itself, just an indication. The actual damage is rolled into what the minion puts out.

Which is fully absorbed by the PL in your example.

In all the battles I've observed PL absorbs the damage from my Morg, including the double damage first strike. But the SoC flash is not absorbed. Maybe because it's actually the opponents damage returned.

Does GA output get absorbed by PL?

Third!

It looks like your 'flash' wasn't applying, as your two hits look nearly identicle.

Unlike the example in the Archery thread, which shows the flash being applied to the minions hit.

Kano's shield flashes! [4,278,029]
Kano pulverized boum [4740339]

Kano crushed boum [457072]
Kano crushed boum [367982]
Kano pulverized boum [330473]
Kano crushed boum [450252]

GA isn't absorbed by PL.

I thought SoC 'flash' was a hit on it's own. In fact I've won battles against exbows with all my strength depleted and only the 'flash' being worth anything.

Johnny, what I mean is your exmaple should have looked like;

Johnny Was's shield flashes! [371,395]
Johnny Was bruised squawk with Red Rose [566676] <-----
Cocka absorbs damage [195281] (Or rather [566676] up to PL)
Johnny Was tapped squawk with Red Rose [198064]
Cocka absorbs damage [198064]

If that was the case (I put the line break in the Kano example above), how did the first hit do so much more damage than the rest?

I'm nearly 100% sure the flash adds in to your next hit to show the total done. ;)

The kano example looks like the first strike in melee where you get a much boosted hit from your own weapon. Subsequent hits only get a flash and normal hits following.

When I get some BA I'll get an example of what happens.

Johnny Was's shield flashes! [518,502]
Johnny Was crunched Kano-san with Red Rose [1088277]
Inept Enchanter absorbs damage [1088277]

Johnny Was's shield flashes! [517,478]
Johnny Was pounded Kano-san with Red Rose [1085226]
Inept Enchanter absorbs damage [466660]
Johnny Was draws strength from his weapon! [123713]

Johnny Was's shield flashes! [1,256,129]
Johnny Was beat Kano-san with Red Rose [1698342]
Inept Enchanter absorbs damage [493960]
Johnny Was draws strength from his weapon! [240876]

Johnny Was's shield flashes! [706,151]
Johnny Was crunched Kano-san with Red Rose [1343237]
Inept Enchanter absorbs damage [272129]
Johnny Was draws strength from his weapon! [214221]



Now the subsequent hits seem to work the way you're suggesting GL, where the flash is a notification and the hammer strike is a combination. But even there, the absorbption only seems to be hammer not Shield. But the first strike the complete hammer strike is absorbed and the first flash seems to be separate.

This looks wonderfully bugged! ;)

Take a look at the first two rounds you posted.

The first, looks like I'd expect. Flash rolled into UC hit, all absorbed by PL.

The second looks like an amalgamation of what we're both saying. Flash rolled into UC hit, only normal damage absorbed by PL. (It's possible no more was absorbed tdue to lack of HP on the PL minion)

Could you do me a favour Johnny?

could you post a couple of fights. With a couple fo concurent melee rounds, with the Jig landing Multiple hits?

Lol, my example are MH+SoC examples...you do realise that yeah?

Just have to wait for BA. Then I'll have a go. See if I can find an opponent doing physical damage where I'm doing multi hits.

(Always a problem, because if I'm doing multi hits then they quite often aren't hitting me.....)

"Lol, my example are MH+SoC examples...you do realise that yeah?"

LoL, saw Kano and got UC on the brain. ;)

Johnny Was's shield flashes! [305,823]
Johnny Was fractured Hal with Red Rose [938608]
minion 1 absorbs damage [156014]
Johnny Was draws strength from his weapon! [156518]
Johnny Was crunched Hal with Red Rose [867790]
Johnny Was draws strength from his weapon! [173558]

Johnny Was regenerated 216,320 HP minion 1 regenerated 140,413 HP

Johnny Was pounded Hal with Red Rose [667953]
minion 1 absorbs damage [156014]
Johnny Was draws strength from his weapon! [102387]
Johnny Was crunched Hal with Red Rose [575782]
Johnny Was draws strength from his weapon! [115156]
Hal shot Johnny Was [474923]

Johnny Was regenerated 216,320 HP minion 1 regenerated 140,413 HP

Johnny Was's shield flashes! [261,665]
Johnny Was crushed Hal with Red Rose [1118774]
Johnny Was draws strength from his weapon! [114966]
Johnny Was cries "I Can See For Miles!!!!"

Johnny Was regenerated 216,320 HP

Johnny Was's shield flashes! [396,156]
Johnny Was crushed Kano-san with Red Rose [1119018]
Johnny Was draws strength from his weapon! [197050]
Kano-san's Guardian Angel smote Johnny Was (483731)
Johnny Was cries "I Can See For Miles!!!!"


Johnny Was's shield flashes! [231,331]
Johnny Was crunched Nofer with Red Rose [987030]
Johnny Was draws strength from his weapon! [197406]
Nofer's Guardian Angel smote Johnny Was (466701)
Johnny Was beat Nofer with Red Rose [780541]
Johnny Was draws strength from his weapon! [156108]
Nofer's Guardian Angel smote Johnny Was (377481)
Johnny Was fractured Nofer with Red Rose [541848]
Johnny Was draws strength from his weapon! [108369]
Nofer's Guardian Angel smote Johnny Was (256147)

Johnny Was's shield flashes! [47,030]
Johnny Was beat Nofer with Red Rose [519022]
Johnny Was draws strength from his weapon! [103804]
Nofer's Guardian Angel smote Johnny Was (249092)
Johnny Was pulverized Nofer with Red Rose [740175]
Johnny Was draws strength from his weapon! [6500]
Nofer's Guardian Angel smote Johnny Was (15570)
Johnny Was cries "I Can See For Miles!!!!"


(unfortunately if I want to use no spellcheck tags I will end up with dodgy formatting, which will be very very very messy.)

Johnny Was's shield flashes! [466,663]
Johnny Was fractured Kano-san with Red Rose [1161117]
Inept Enchanter absorbs damage [896149]
Johnny Was draws strength from his weapon! [52993]

Johnny Was's shield flashes! [1,796,750]
Johnny Was beat Kano-san with Red Rose [2051279]
Inept Enchanter absorbs damage [673089]
Johnny Was draws strength from his weapon! [275638]


Johnny Was's shield flashes! [1,275,391]
Johnny Was pounded Kano-san with Red Rose [1704295]
Inept Enchanter absorbs damage [495617]
Johnny Was draws strength from his weapon! [241735]

Johnny Was's shield flashes! [683,211]
Johnny Was crunched Kano-san with Red Rose [1365806]
Inept Enchanter absorbs damage [273771]
Johnny Was draws strength from his weapon! [218407]

Johnny Was's shield flashes! [1,204,462]
Johnny Was beat Kano-san with Red Rose [1779669]
Inept Enchanter absorbs damage [498174]
Johnny Was draws strength from his weapon! [256299]

OK, first fight.

Apart from the second hit in the first round (which seems far too high, maybe the SoC flash applies for all hits in a single round?) all looks fine. The Flash added to the hits, and PL absorbed the maximum it could (for trained level and minion HP).

The second rounds show the drop in Morg hit damage (From 900-800K down to 600-500K).

Second fight;

Damage seems too Random. :/ One round it goes from 900K to 700K to 500K.

Third fight;

Show the Flash Damage being added to your Morg hits. The largest 'flash' let you hit 2 Mil, the only time you got that high. It's hard to see what PL was absrbing, as it looks limited by the users HP. But the last PL is confusing.

There def seems to be something dodgey going on in the relation to SoC releases and PL. But I can't for the life of me work out what! ;)

"I thought SoC 'flash' was a hit on it's own."

jon has stated, i will try to find it later, that the soc flash just shows how much damage it released but it is added to the next physical damage hit.