Best way to deal with 20HP, AoI, PLed Minions? (in General)


AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] March 1 2010 4:54 AM EST

What's the best way to deal with a front 20HP (or low HP), Invisible minion backed by a PL sink?

You can't hit them with the MoD, due to the invisibility, so is the only answer DD?

MM is out, as these will be in the front to neuter Decay, so we're left with FB, SG or CoC.

I suppose the SoD might also be worth looking at, to get some splash damage onto the minion (and the PL sink).

What's your thoughts on the matter?

Underage Drinking March 1 2010 5:17 AM EST

What character(s) are you looking at specifically?

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] March 1 2010 5:27 AM EST

Just in general. Theorycrafting. ;)

Sickone March 1 2010 5:48 AM EST

If they're damage-dealers, "deal" with them with GA and optionally the other appropriate damage-source-specific counter(s) (AMF, mageseeker, specialty crossbows).
If they're not damage-dealers... umm, well, so, just use regular physical attacks to take care of everybody else that is a threat first.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] March 1 2010 5:52 AM EST

Yeah, it's not likely these type of minions will be damage dealers (or they might hold a RoBF on purpose), so GA is usually a no no.

Of course, you can kill the team off first (or the PL sink), but other than that, what else is there?

Sickone March 1 2010 6:01 AM EST

It's not fun when you answer your own question in the OP already :P
I can't think of anything else besides FB, SG, CoC or SoD.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] March 1 2010 6:16 AM EST

Sick, in your opinion, which would be the 'best' choice out of those, and why? ;)

Sickone March 1 2010 6:27 AM EST

Well, let's just say they're all "almost equally bad" :)

You're still going to have to deal enough damage to either kill off or at least overwhelm the PL battery first no matter which way you go, and I'd wager killing it off is actually easier in most cases.

The SoD can deal a lot of total damage, but is easily foiled by an "evasion wall", and whatever minion wears a RoBF (probably that exact first minion you want to kill) gets a damage reduction from that too.
The FB deals a lot of damage early, but is highly unlikely to overwhelm the PL battery in ranged, and CoC very quickly catches up damage-wise, both methods focusing on killing the battery rather than overwhelming it.
CoC on the other hand is highly susceptible to AMF, much more than the others, since it has a high DPS-to-XP ratio.
SG is the most likely to be able to overwhelm the PL battery instead of killing it, yet the overall damage is quite unlikely to be too high, since the front 20-HP minion will not likely have a high AC.

If I'd really have to pick one, and just one, I'd probably go with a CoC, but only if backed up by huge NSC.

Underage Drinking March 1 2010 7:32 AM EST

well in all cases you dont actually have to kill off the PL minion just have to do more damage than it can absorb, this is assuming the AoI minion would be in front of the PL.

i would have to say maybe use an Axbow/Exbow, it would work great versus a mage group for this purpose i would imagine.

Miandrital March 1 2010 7:33 AM EST

GL go with either FB or CoC. The way I see it, you get 'free' damage from either one because the PL minion has to absorb the whole hit, just to protect 20 hp. That way, you can do extra damage to the PL minion and kill it off faster and hopefully overwhelm the pl quickly.

Underage Drinking March 1 2010 7:35 AM EST

oh wait no my Axbow/Exbow idea is not sound with PL, silly me
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