Band of wookies score (in General)

Minnakht August 20 2010 12:03 PM EDT

I'm not sure how clans work fully, but I don't understand how Band of Wookies has a score of 14,707.


If I add up all the scores, 2546+3798+1888+2450-892-2946-102=6752

What am I missing?

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] August 20 2010 12:15 PM EDT

There is an ongoing issue with clan scores, I believe NS is working on it.

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] August 20 2010 12:32 PM EDT

also i think that individual scores are real time and clan score only updates hourly or something. someone else may be able to verify that though.

AdminNightStrike August 20 2010 12:55 PM EDT

The negative cost of rituals is applied to user scores but not to the clan score. It's a very hard bug to find a way around.

Zippy August 20 2010 2:39 PM EDT

All the scores are always off by a little but it seems that BoW scores are always off by a lot. Not saying they are doing anything wrong, but the use of a bug for an unfair advantage is not very nice and should be frowned upon. If this is not the case please disregard my post.

Thank You for not arguing.

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] August 20 2010 3:04 PM EDT

Bugs a bug, talk to slayer and he can turn on your guys' rituals.

TheShazbot August 20 2010 3:09 PM EDT

I concur, Zippy. I concur.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] August 20 2010 3:35 PM EDT

Not saying they are doing anything wrong, but the use of a bug for an unfair advantage is not very nice and should be frowned upon.

All's fair in love and clan war?

It's not like SeeD have been changing thier rituals. Like activating Insight when they burn BA and then SoS after to lower what's taken away from them...

Oh wait.

Soxjr August 20 2010 3:40 PM EDT

Oh, now I get it. I thought we were just really bad, but after looking at it closely, first and second are just way off and everyone else seems to be really close to their actual numbers. So either the first two clans need to stop using the rituals to stop just getting the automatic first and second place and actually have to start earning it or every other clan need to start doing the same thing and turning on rituals left and right to keep up with the you guys.

I don't usually care at all, but when it's brought up and you look and the first two clans are a more pedestrian 6k to 7k clan points instead of their inflated 10k + it really sticks out like a sore thumb. Personally I think both clans should stop abusing the bug. I seem to remember old posts where people that abused a bug for benefit got reset. Let me dig up some old posts. Maybe that would make you guys stop. I'm sure a full clan reset would really suck.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] August 20 2010 3:44 PM EDT

Because Clan Scores really effect the game in a significant way?

And besides we were always around the number 1 spot before this started happening. A competing Clan upped thier game by use of the Rituals, and we responded.

Maybe other Clans should start doing similiar, until it's decided that Rituals shouldn't work that way and they are changed, or they are turned off.

Minnakht August 20 2010 3:45 PM EDT

Sox -

Everybody's off by about 10%, including your clan. SeeD has 14500 some points, and we're showing at 16000. Your clan's at 2000, and showing 2200. I doubt that it's a bug that people are abusing intentionally, or it looks like you'd get reset too.

I'm just wondering why Band of Wookies is off by so much more.

Soxjr August 20 2010 3:47 PM EDT

Arf. I am sorry. I shouldn't post when I just get up. I counted your scores up and didn't scroll down and see the last 2 people. I am sorry. Disregard my entire post. The only clan that is just crazy off is the first one.

This is where I would love an edit button. :P

Minnakht August 20 2010 3:51 PM EDT

No problem :)

AdminNightStrike August 20 2010 3:51 PM EDT

The bug is that your clan -- any clan -- is not effectively charged for activating a ritual. I still don't know what to do about that. I am waiting on an explanation from Jon.

Zippy August 20 2010 3:59 PM EDT

Ok so if I am understanding you correctly NS:
*A clan uses a ritual and it takes from the members score?
*Taking from the members score would then prevent their scores from adding up to the clan score?
*But the clan score is un-phased?
*Please disregard my first post then.
*Hope you all get this fixed soon.

I know you admins do not get thanked enough, so thanks for all you do.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] August 20 2010 4:01 PM EDT

How about disabling rituals that effect clan scores until such time as charging actually works?

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] August 20 2010 4:01 PM EDT

^ that was my next question as well.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] August 20 2010 4:05 PM EDT

Clan scores are a bit of fun really. What the Clan wars are all about. Disabling those Rituals would just get people to use the other, more game effecting ones instead.

Like the +10% Spell or Intrinsic ones.

If the way they work currently isn't a wanted mechanic, then the only real option would be to disable all them until it's sorted, if you think it's issue enough to disable any of them...

AdminNightStrike August 20 2010 4:45 PM EDT

I guess the right thing to do is to shut them all off. So, it is done :( :(

Kefeck [Demonic Serenity] August 20 2010 5:46 PM EDT

LoL.. And watch there scores drop .


AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] August 20 2010 10:50 PM EDT


Admin{CB1}Slayer333 [SHIELD] August 21 2010 7:52 PM EDT

Our score didn't really drop all that badly.

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] August 21 2010 10:48 PM EDT

well when you have 8 people all fighting in a clan It shouldn't drop that drastically...

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 [SHIELD] August 21 2010 11:14 PM EDT

I was led to believe our superior exploiting skills were simply boosting us to greatness.

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] August 24 2010 8:16 AM EDT

i was able to activate leviathan scales today, but the other ulmo rituals weren't there. were some rituals turned back on?

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] August 24 2010 8:24 AM EDT

active here as well

Mikel August 24 2010 8:28 AM EDT

I am not able to activate mine.

AdminNightStrike August 25 2010 1:20 AM EDT

I turned it on to test things. Also, it's an easy way to keep the ritual description page from causing a server error.

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] August 25 2010 7:21 AM EDT

to be clear it is just the leviathan scales ritual that was turned back on. ulmo is da god! ; )
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