The time has come.... (in Off-topic)

Elf X.7plus35k December 13 2011 4:42 PM EST

Should have really been said long before now, but I can't do it anymore. I've done all I can to help this game. Came up with ideas posted to the boards told they were great and were simple enough to have been added. However they were just ignored, why get someone's hopes up about stuff being added if only to ignore the idea at the end of the day??

All that being said I wish you all the best, but it's time for me to say goodbye. To those I got to know over the years, I'll miss you dearly if you have other ways to contact me feel free to do so. If not who knows I may wander back one day, but no plans at the moment to do so. To those that have only seen me around, perhaps you'll get to know me if ever I shall return.

Last but not least to all those who said my last ideas were great I leave you all with one question. How great were they that they ended up in the trash?

Bye X|

Sickone December 13 2011 4:44 PM EST

Happiness comes from drastically lowered expectations.

Gohan [Ka-Tet of the Serene] December 13 2011 4:44 PM EST

Well put sickone, lol.

Lord Bob December 13 2011 5:13 PM EST

Happiness comes from drastically lowered expectations.

Admiralkiller [Cult of the Valaraukar] December 13 2011 5:34 PM EST


Django December 13 2011 5:45 PM EST

Another long time vet leaves because of lack of change. Well, I can not blame you. Btw, good luck in life and take care.

AdminQBVerifex December 13 2011 6:48 PM EST

Elf, please don't be so dramatic, your ideas weren't horrible or whatever. It's just that unfortunately this game doesn't pay the bills for me or any other devs here, so we can only make changes in our free time. That free time is less then we would like sometimes, so we can't put in new awesome changes right away. We have to work on them over time.

The new items you guys came up with should be in the works. But I just can't give you a specific time-frame yet. :)

TH3 C0113CT0R December 13 2011 7:23 PM EST

Im a Dev, i've been doing code since before this game started. never asked to help out, never asked to be a dev, voiced my idea, told they were good never implemented. nothing has changed since my return except a few items basically. im still a dev, i still code, i still am not an admin, have not been asked to help, yet i still put out ideas, none of which have been implemented. I have no job, no life, and am here most of the time. i choose not to post, and stay out of chat for the same reasons she is leaving. i would gladly help code and make changes, but im pretty sure its in the RULES that we can't ask for admin or to help code. so who can blame her, honestly, who knows maybe i'll join her, start a "strike of sorts". no changes no playing. lol maybe that last part is a bit melodramatic, but whatever.

TH3 C0113CT0R December 13 2011 7:25 PM EST

point is if you have no time to code, invite others that have the ability, time, and will to help fix the code, and expand on this every fading game, that would be a real loss if it died.

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] December 13 2011 7:28 PM EST

Being an admin has no reflection on whether or not we have access to the code base. If you have programming experience, good with javascript/jquery, html, css, and SQL tell NS you'd like to help. Or do independent things for CB, if you're not sure what I mean, CM me.

Demigod December 13 2011 7:30 PM EST

Yeah, Elf. It's not that your ideas are bad, it's just that keeping the game from dying isn't that high of a priority. Many of the needed changes have only been on the table for a handful of years, so there's plenty of time.

On a serious note, the argument of "the few devs don't have much free time" is valid, but the counter argument is "get more devs." (I typed that before I saw L3go's response.) Regardless, with an anemic 105 players in the past week, I really can't blame Elf for giving up.

TH3 C0113CT0R December 13 2011 7:35 PM EST

titan, potato pitato, I realize admin in game has no relation to devs. my point still remains. but a dev needs admin to verify things work correct. would be kinda hard not to. lets implement a new tourney feature. okay its done. okay darn! i can't even try it out cus im not an admin.

TH3 C0113CT0R December 13 2011 7:37 PM EST

On a side note, I've told the "admins/Devs" that I have coding skill long before my quit and haven't bothered since getting back, I was told no before and why would I assume the answer would change. RARELY is someone knew added to the admin/dev team, and its usually top player, QB, heavy invester, not some low level, no NW shmuck.

Elf X.7plus35k December 13 2011 7:38 PM EST

Since I was nicely asked to return to read posts, I did so. Upon doing so I now have the following to say...

Verifex - always handing out excuses... ''you weren't lied to'' ''people just don't have time'' ''you're not ever going to help with this game'' ''well maybe if you'd share your ideas they'd get put in'' and the countless others I choose to not dig up.

Titan, Hi how ya doing? I've offered to help code over and over and over again wanna guess what I've been told each and every time I've done so? I'll give you one hint I'm still not allowed to code. 5 years of being told no and being told those with access have NO TIME yet when people offer to help they are told NO... what am I missing here?

Share ideas or they can't be added - did so was tossed in the trash.
Offer to help code - been there done that got told no EVERY TIME

TH3 C0113CT0R December 13 2011 7:41 PM EST

p.s. pardon my spelling/grammar was totally mad when I typed it and didn't care about the mistakes.

TH3 C0113CT0R December 13 2011 8:04 PM EST

oh and to demi god, the only priority should be to keep the game from dying otherwise why the heck are we arguing and why is the game dying. do you want a dead game.. apparently if you feel saving a game from dying isn't a high priority.

Demigod December 13 2011 8:07 PM EST

(Psst. That paragraph was sarcasm.)

TH3 C0113CT0R December 13 2011 8:09 PM EST

lol ah that makes more sense then :P should put a *did you note the sarcasm

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] December 14 2011 12:44 AM EST

Titan, Hi how ya doing? I've offered to help code over and over and over again wanna guess what I've been told each and every time I've done so? I'll give you one hint I'm still not allowed to code. 5 years of being told no and being told those with access have NO TIME yet when people offer to help they are told NO... what am I missing here?

Coding stuff server side is only one way you can help CB. I can think of a good amount of things that can be looked into without server side access; like I said if interested, just CM me.

Yes there has been few changes in the past 1.5 years or so; however, complaining about it will only get so far. Yes I know the bulk of the responsibility for a game being "fun" and gaining more people should be placed on the designer and developer; however CB is in this unique situation where there is a number of people who care about it so dearly, they would go out of their way for it.

If you feel this way, then take whatever approach it takes to make this game better, hint, most of the time it doesn't require coding. I understand you've had plenty of ideas, some I'm sure were very good (I probably wasn't around for most of them); but there is a difference between presenting an idea, and taking steps to make sure that idea is put in place.

AdminNightStrike December 14 2011 12:56 AM EST

You know what's tiring? Hearing that no matter what you do, no matter how much work or time or effort you put it, it's always "none".


TH3 C0113CT0R December 14 2011 2:41 AM EST

NS its not that the work you have done is worth nothing. is that barely any work gets done anymore.. look at the past change logs. some of us are willing to give that extra help getting the coding done.
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