MH's Va doesn't seem to work (in General)


BestNUB December 21 2011 1:48 PM EST

Note: none of the minions I attacked has PL he entire party benefits from some outside force! Guan Yu cast Antimagic Field on Annie (0.02) Annie cast Dispel Magic on all enemy Minions (2,598,992) Ranged Combat Guan Yu's shot went wide of Hal Guo Jia's familiar's Magic Missile hit Annie [126,799] Guan Yu hit Hal [48,055] Hal looks weaker! Guo Jia's familiar's Magic Missile hit Annie [226,906] Hal hit Guan Yu [43,265] Hal hit Guan Yu [38,603] Annie takes damage from his own Magic Missile (1,313)! Annie's Magic Missile hit Guo Jia [80,231] Guan Yu absorbs damage [80,231] Guan Yu regenerated 25,774 HP Guan Yu hit Hal [60,546] Hal looks weaker! Guo Jia's familiar's Magic Missile hit Annie [171,777] Hal hit Guan Yu [34] Hal shot Guan Yu [18] Annie takes damage from his own Magic Missile (1,407)! Annie's Magic Missile hit Guo Jia [142,050] Guan Yu absorbs damage [99,288] Guan Yu regenerated 25,774 HP Guan Yu hit Annie [57,885] Annie looks weaker! Guan Yu hit Annie [62,978] Guo Jia's familiar's Magic Missile hit Annie [174,613] Hal hit Guan Yu [44] Hal hit Guan Yu [3] Annie takes damage from his own Magic Missile (1,501)! Annie's Magic Missile hit Guo Jia [119,159] Guan Yu absorbs damage [99,288] Guan Yu regenerated 25,774 HP Guan Yu shot Hal [55,529] Guo Jia's familiar's Magic Missile hit Annie [226,279] Hal hit Guan Yu [21] Hal shot Guan Yu for no damage Annie takes damage from his own Magic Missile (1,595)! Annie's Magic Missile hit Guo Jia [173,872] Guan Yu absorbs damage [99,288] Guan Yu regenerated 25,774 HP Guan Yu shot Hal [49,124] Guan Yu shot Hal [52,569] Guo Jia's familiar's Magic Missile hit Annie [262,501] Guo Jia touches Hal [552,805] Hal shot Guan Yu for no damage Hal hit Guan Yu [16] Hal hit Guan Yu [20] Annie takes damage from his own Magic Missile (1,688)! Annie's Magic Missile hit Guo Jia [122,364] Guan Yu absorbs damage [99,288] Guan Yu regenerated 25,774 HP Melee Combat Guo Jia's familiar's Magic Missile hit Annie [396,778] Guo Jia touches Hal [565,203] Guo Jia cries "I hope you enjoy this!" Hal hit Guan Yu [4] Annie takes damage from his own Magic Missile (3,127)! Annie's Magic Missile hit Guo Jia [369,193] Guan Yu absorbs damage [99,288] Guan Yu regenerated 25,774 HP R.I.P. Hal Guan Yu bruised Annie [112,255] Guan Yu bruised Annie [105,548] Guo Jia's familiar's Magic Missile hit Annie [360,878] Guo Jia touches Annie [356,032] Annie takes damage from his own Magic Missile (3,127)! Annie's Magic Missile hit Guo Jia [333,032] Guan Yu absorbs damage [99,288] Guan Yu regenerated 25,774 HP Guan Yu pounded Annie [106,995] Guan Yu pounded Annie [98,086] Guo Jia's familiar's Magic Missile hit Annie [431,433] Annie takes damage from his own Magic Missile (3,127)! Annie's Magic Missile hit Guo Jia [270,396] Guan Yu absorbs damage [99,288] Guan Yu regenerated 25,774 HP R.I.P. Annie

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] December 21 2011 1:50 PM EST

VA (including the leech from Morg/BoTH) doesn't work is the holding minion has trained PL.

BestNUB December 21 2011 1:50 PM EST

The entire party benefits from some outside force!
Hello cast Antimagic Field on Annie (0.02)
Annie cast Dispel Magic on all enemy Minions (2,598,992)
Ranged Combat
Hello shot Hal [44,112]
Hal looks weaker!
Hi's familiar's Magic Missile hit Annie [194,444]


Hello shot Hal [56,639]
Hal looks weaker!
Hi's familiar's Magic Missile hit Annie [202,724]
Hal hit Hello for no damage
Hal hit Hello [5]
Annie takes damage from his own Magic Missile (1,313)!
Annie's Magic Missile hit Hi [159,411]
Hello absorbs damage [99,288]
Hello regenerated 25,774 HP

Hello shot Annie [49,238]
Annie looks weaker!
Hello shot Annie [49,303]
Hi's familiar's Magic Missile hit Annie [159,665]
Hal shot Hello [21]
Hal shot Hello [8]
Annie takes damage from his own Magic Missile (1,407)!
Annie's Magic Missile hit Hi [122,988]
Hello absorbs damage [99,288]
Hello regenerated 25,774 HP

Hello shot Hal [62,587]
Hi's familiar's Magic Missile hit Annie [192,374]
Hal hit Hello [56]
Hal hit Hello for no damage
Annie takes damage from his own Magic Missile (1,501)!
Annie's Magic Missile hit Hi [127,257]
Hello absorbs damage [99,288]
Hello regenerated 25,774 HP

Hello hit Hal [61,792]
Hello shot Hal [66,357]
Hi's familiar's Magic Missile hit Annie [220,390]
Hal hit Hello for no damage
Hal shot Hello [42]
Hal shot Hello for no damage
Annie takes damage from his own Magic Missile (1,595)!
Annie's Magic Missile hit Hi [102,913]
Hello absorbs damage [99,288]
Hello regenerated 25,774 HP

Hello shot Hal [53,818]
Hello hit Hal [48,476]
Hi's familiar's Magic Missile hit Annie [390,083]
Hi touches Hal [463,314]
Hal shot Hello [24]
Hal hit Hello for no damage
Hal hit Hello for no damage
Annie takes damage from his own Magic Missile (1,688)!
Annie's Magic Missile hit Hi [186,529]
Hello absorbs damage [99,288]
Hello regenerated 25,774 HP

Melee Combat
Hi's familiar's Magic Missile hit Annie [425,027]
Hi touches Hal [598,823]
Hi cries "I hope you enjoy this!"
Hal's shot ricocheted near Hello
Annie takes damage from his own Magic Missile (3,127)!
Annie's Magic Missile hit Hi [309,057]
Hello absorbs damage [99,288]
Hello regenerated 25,774 HP
R.I.P. Hal

Hello tapped Annie [101,096]
Hello beat Annie [138,718]
Hi's familiar's Magic Missile hit Annie [433,873]
Hi touches Annie [626,331]
Hi cries "I hope you enjoy this!"
Annie takes damage from his own Magic Missile (3,127)!
Annie's Magic Missile hit Hi [305,264]
Hello absorbs damage [99,288]
Hello regenerated 25,774 HP
R.I.P. Annie


That last one didn't work. here's a new log.

BestNUB December 21 2011 1:52 PM EST

Oh also, I tested it with BoT, still no drain.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] December 21 2011 1:53 PM EST

From the Wiki;

A minion training PL will get no benefit either from VA or Morgul-Hammer (MH) / Blade of Thuringwethil (BoTH).

BestNUB December 21 2011 1:54 PM EST

oh ok, i thought it was the opposing minion had PL trained.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] December 21 2011 1:56 PM EST

That too;

Damage absorbed by the minion training PL will not count towards damage an attacker's VA/MH/BoTH uses to calculate life drain.

Quyen December 21 2011 2:13 PM EST

Bwhua! when i send a mail it gets ignored! :(

Duke December 22 2011 2:08 AM EST

This is 2 limitation that should get remove

BestNUB December 22 2011 2:15 AM EST

It does seem puzzling. I can see why it is when the opposing minion has PL. But I don't understand the reason why it doesn't work if you trained PL.

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] December 22 2011 2:21 AM EST

A guess would be, PL can be construed as a different form of VA so they are not compatible.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] December 22 2011 3:53 AM EST

It's to stop you having an immortal team.

Massive Tank, backed by a Morg and VA.

All the damage goes to that single minion, the resto fyour team is unhurt, then, even if the PL minion dies, his Morg/VA hits leech enough to bring him back to life.

Basically PL focuses your Morg/VA so that it isn't regenning the single minion with the weapon, but it's regenning the whole team.

I hope this makes sense, if not, I'll try to explain a little better later! ;)

BestNUB December 22 2011 4:15 AM EST

dang that was going to be my strat. Ty for the explanation :)
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