Strategy Question (in General)

Wise February 8 2012 11:48 PM EST

I'm ranked about 1M and now I'm being farmed by lower levels. I run an Enchanter/Mage (FB&DM) plus an archer w/a ToA and an ELB. The E/M has 100k hp, 150k FB and 150k DM. The archer has 95k hp, 270k st, and 220 dex plus appropriate archery. All the stats are after item bonus.

The archer armor is: AoM, EB, Tulks, HoE (need clear sight eventually) and a Kite Shield (can't afford better yet).

The Enchanter/Mage armor is: EG (wrong gloves, but bought them reasonable), Cloak (again need $), Elven Hauberk, leather boots ($ again) and a cabasset ($ again).

I tend to spend money upgrading the EB on the archer so I can pump more xp in to strength and not into archery or dex.

Should I be upgrading something else instead such as the ELB? Saving for better items instead?

Also, I have a Black Sword, should I use it and the ELB or just stick with the ELB?

TH3 C0113CT0R February 9 2012 12:17 AM EST

don't use a two handed weapon with the archer, you will take a huge hit to the dex/skill. pump the ELB, put money into the other items as you can, but your money should be going into the ELB.

PS. sorry for farming you :P

TH3 C0113CT0R February 9 2012 12:19 AM EST

FYI, all three people farming you are bigger then you. just because your score is 1m doesn't mean we are 'smaller' then you :)

lostling February 9 2012 12:29 AM EST

in general you do not want to use fireball in a multi minion team.

and might i suggest alittle more HP on your archer

lets say
100k hp 200k str 200k dex
we take 50k damage a hit and deal 100k damage a hit(roughly)
total damage before death = 100k x 2 = 200k

but say i reshuffle the stats
200k hp 100k str 200k dex
we take 50k damage a hit and deal 60k damage a hit(roughly)
total damage before death = 60k x 4 = 240k

TH3 C0113CT0R February 9 2012 12:54 AM EST

who is we?

IPoop February 9 2012 1:50 AM EST

there has to be loads of mid range ELB (or other ranged and then swap it).

Surely it makes more sense just to keep swapping upwards!?
Definatly rent/buy a HoC as soon as possible as an extra round for you is a huge bonus

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] February 9 2012 3:37 AM EST

As for gear, drop the Tulk's for some Belegs, and don't use a Kite Shield. The only Shield you'll want to wear is a BoM, when you're able to get one.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] February 9 2012 3:45 AM EST

Sent you a pair of Belegs.

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Wise February 9 2012 10:37 AM EST

Thanks for all the replies!

I won't use the Black Sword. And I'll use the BoM and Beleg's. So the ranged 3% damage bonus increase damage more than the 1% base strength of Tukla's? As for a HoC they are really expensive, but you're right I could rent. Should I rent one for each minion?

As for the FB mage on a two minion team. The idea is that I need to win in the ranged rounds or not at all - so it doesn't damage the archer. That's the reason I haven't pumped up HP more. I'm thinking more damage is better.

TH3 C0113CT0R February 9 2012 10:40 AM EST

well MM is a ranged DD aswell, so you could run it instead of FB, then your ELB is hitting from the front and your MM from the back and you won't take splash damage from the FB anymore, a HoC on both would be good if you keep the DD. NSC gloves for the mage, Spellbooster boots aswell, Cloak of Istari might be good too.

TH3 C0113CT0R February 9 2012 10:42 AM EST

oh and yes the 3% per level of the BGs is better then the 1% per level of the TGS. look at it this way, +12 TGs is only 12% to str, which doesn't seem like much to me compared to +12 BGs for 36% increase in ranged damage

TH3 C0113CT0R February 9 2012 10:44 AM EST

oh a BoE is the best bet for your enchanter i think. helps your spells and DD

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] February 9 2012 10:46 AM EST

Strength increases damage, in conjunction with the size of your weapon, so at best, when both are equivalent, Strength will make up 50% of your overall damage.

The Belegs increase damage overall, including your strength and weapon X.

Wise February 9 2012 11:00 AM EST

Ya, the BoE is definitely what I cost as much as a HoC & I need two HoC. The spellcaster boots and gloves are also in the future.

I should sell the EGs and Black Sword for some $ I suppose. Unless, of course, somebody needs to borrow them? The EG is 3+5 and the BS is 92x9+5. Oh and I have the TGs available now too 6+12.

Wise February 9 2012 11:42 AM EST

As for MM instead of FB, I'm thinking that the archer will probably do most of the killing and the FB helps him get it done faster. An MM might hit a different minion and since it's not as powerful as the archer, the archer would have to finish off that minion anyway. If the rear minions are weak, the FB will get them all in one round anyway, right?

{WW]Nayab [Cult of the Valaraukar] February 9 2012 5:09 PM EST

Correct Wise. FB will clear out all the weak minions in the fight pretty much immediately unless they are backed by up by PL.
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