(Tournament 96) Selection Matters! (in Contests)

Winner take all brawl! One week to make it!

Highest MPR with MOST BATTLES FOUGHT. Try to spend all your BA.
No retrains period! Better make your first choice a good one.

Must use:
One Direct Damage source
One Ranged Weapon source
One Melee Weapon Source.
Tattoos are not considered damage sources for this tournament.


As many minions as you would like. Once you hire a minion there is no firing them. Any other stats as your strategy seems necessary.


25,000% Bonus
25,000 BA Spending Limit.

Starts this Saturday 11/26 at noon.
Ends on 12/03 at noon.

Highest MPR with MOST BATTLES FOUGHT. Try to spend all your BA.

I have many, many, many equipment to choose from. Winner gets 3.


1st Place. ThunderHyde
2nd Place. Joel
3rd Place. Salt3d


You three CM me so we can decide what equip(s) you want.

Can multiple damage sources come from the same minion?

Are the damage sources only one or at least one?

You may combine Ranged and Melee on one minion but the DD needs to be standalone.

Is Decay considered a DD in this tournament?

Yes you may use Decay as a direct damage source.

Uhm... how do we join the tournament? I have no idea how to do that.

Seems to be going smoothly for you 4. Anyone having issues?

I have two questions:

(1) Can I hire a new minion at this point in the tournament, or are new minions part of the retrain limitations?

(2) The rules say that number of battles top at 25K. I see a few players that have reached 10K battles and there does not seems to be any new ones available? Is there a plan to add these 15K missing battles or does BA just start generating at the normal rate fro 10K battles and on?

Adding a new minion isn't retraining.

BA regenerates at the normal rate, which should be 6 BA per 20 minutes by the time you're under the cap.

Wow! That completely kills my plans. I thought we were going to get 25K BA handed to us over 7 days so I was pacing myself. Now I find out I am about 1000 BA late because I took my time.

Yeah the race to use the first 10k is run and won. I don't think there's a way to catch up from here.

Meh... the fact that I can hire new minions will help me jump right past the leaders when I complete the initial 10K... at least in theory.

Damn. I wish I'd thought of that.

You need highest MPR AND most battles fought to win this tourney. I'm sure the highest MPR character, if he doesn't also have most battles fought, will still get some kind of prize.

Indeed. I have no way of catching up to you on the amounts of battles fought.

That is why I was so bummed. Since there is a 25K BA spending limit in the tournament rules, I thought that we were somehow going to each get the possibility of spending that amount. So I was being careful choosing my targets at lower levels to maximize the fight bonuses.

Turns out that was a bad idea because it took me longer to spend the initial 10K BA.

You can hire. No firing.

This tournament is great. It really exposes useless skills and has already thought me many valuable lessons.

Here is the best example.

I fell for the VA trap yet again (I always do anytime I create a new character). I really have to stop training that skill.

If I had chosen Haste instead, it would be benefiting at least 2 or my minions AND my familiar in all facets of every battle... unless it would be dispelled.

But I chose VA. At best, VA benefits 1 minion only if it reaches the melee rounds and that it can cause damage.

LOL! I think that lesson is learned.

Yep, I fell for it, too. I tried it early on in the tourney, remembering all the teams I felt I had trouble fighting with my main character. But, then I remembered that I was always able to beat those teams while still being a bit below their MPR, so I stopped training it and just settled on copying my main character's build as much as I still could, lol.

TOURNEY OVER!!!! Right? lol

Yep, its over! My tourney character has been auto-retired!

It was a close tourney! Everyone did great!

Indeed... but who won what?

I had the highest MPR but you had the most battles.

My MPR was the highest among those that had the most Battles Fought, so I win! The wording of the rules prevents a tie among those who have the same amount of battles fought, which was entirely possible.

If you want to get technical, you had the most battles challenged. I had the most battles fought by a long way. ;)

Lol because I hit you 2,000 times! XD))

Well, actually, it's not most battles fought with highest MPR... it's the opposite.

It's highest MPR with most battles fought.

So I think I might have won.

Also, I was the one hitting you, not the reverse... and it was nowhere near 2000 times.

Here are my stats:

MPR 10,455,049

Battles Total 11,980
... Challenged 11,953
... Won 11,491

Here are yours:

MPR 10,305,028

Battles Total 12,740
... Challenged 12,642
... Won 12,536

I was talking to salt3d lol

So.... Did Tal forget about us, or what?

Winners announced in original post.

Thanks Tal! I think you've noticed that the winning conditions could be a bit clearer, lol. 2 out of 3 of us didn't interpret them correctly....

Yeah! Well, I had some really tough competition and really had to chose my targets carefully to keep up with the two other contenders. The fact that left left the gates running really worried me at first. However, I guess pace and good target selection were the secrets to this tournament.

Secrets, indeed! lol good job finding out those secrets! lol

Did any of you notice the tourney BA bug?
My main character was bumped into the 6/20 BA regen bracket on Monday, but I wasn't truly in that bracket because I could still get negative a challenge bonus.
This implies that I also wasn't receiving increased rewards for my main character, which, if true, means that I lost over 900 BA for my main character by participating in this tourney.
I don't think the prize, even for first place, would be enough of a compensation for that amount of lost BA. Did you guys get affected by the bug, or was it just me?

'I could still get a negative challenge bonus' is what I meant to write.

I noticed I was on 6 BA, and then later the same day I noticed I wasn't getting negative challenge bonuses any more. Note that 'the same day' in my time zone probably spanned midnight server time, so I assumed things had sorted themselves out during cache flush (or whatever).

I think any discrepancy regarding changing regen rates would be limited to a few hours at most. I would also hazard a guess that it's not possible to be at the 6 BA rate without also getting the increased rewards. It seems more likely that the no-negative-challenge-bonus flag only gets checked/set once per day. But just as likely is that it's a display bug, meaning it shows up on the battle page but it isn't being applied in the depths of the game itself.

You only roll into the next bracket at cache flush... 4 AM.


Sorry Joel I just gave everyone 5,000 free BA that I proabably shouldn't have. I can't give out more willy-nilly

I guess the next best fix would be to limit tourney bonuses in a way that doesn't push tourney characters past the 8/20 regen mark. I like tourneys and I don't want to just not enter any because of ths bug....

I didn't mind the bug. Since there are only about one or 2 tournaments organized per year and only 3 or 4 players actually make a run for first place. It's a chance I would be willing to take in order to try to win really great prizes.

Since my NUB character is in the 7 BA bracket, the loss was 116 BA per day: ((1 BA * 3 per hour * 24 hours) + 22 less BA to buy).

In the case of the other participants, the loss was at least twice as much BA per day. So if the bug is not fixed, it would be important to mention it in future tournaments (... if the tournament characters have a chance to reach the 6 BA bracket).

since neither myself nor tal has access to the coding, and those that do are no longer actively making tweaks to it, consider this to be the future announcement, that if you choose to participate in a tourney you may experience a ba regen bug. if this is going to be a huge issue for you then simply do not participate. tbh i'd consider holding tourneys like this a real big nicety to our remaining player base, if in the future though it is going to cause dissent then we may not hold them again.

I don't think there is any dissent. Players reporting bugs and being a little annoyed at them is perfectly normal. It is nothing personal.

If you read the comments again, you will see that everyone enjoyed the tournament and, as expected, a lot of players had their grain of salt to add.

If something can be done about reported bugs, great. If not, just do as you did above and let everyone know.

You guys are doing a great job considering the current CB situation and the tournament was great. Keep up the good work and keep the tournaments coming. I know I will always participate if I can.

Yeah, I don't hate you guys because of the BA bug, and I may join future tourneys if the reward is high enough, or if the prize is over 1000 BA, lol. Don't stop the tourneys for my sake. :)

If you were in this tourney sign here.

I've forgotten to pay out participation prizes... i have Joel Hyde and Salt all paid.

Okay, now I've gotten everyone.


Bohab, Stabilo, and Super sayian gojuan.


all paid their participation prizes