Black Market Vote Guide (BMVG) Week 7: ELB, DB, Corn, (Coi) (in General)


AdminShade February 13 2005 7:27 PM EST

first some statistics from last week:

286 votes for unspawned items:

Items spawned and (estimated) worth:
A Katana ($220,500)
An Executioner's Sword ($367,500)
A Mithril Chain Mail ($551,250)
A Steel Brigandine ($15,750)
A Cloak of Balrog Flame ($2,100,000)
A Compound Bow $57,750
A Katana $220,500

total estimated market value: over $3,533,250 (values in parentheses are current bids)

current 'wasted' votes: 97 which is 33.9% of total votes for unspawned items
(counting all votes of under 10% of needed votes that aren't the goal)

Ok now to explain what and why because this week we will be voting for:

Elven Long Bow
Displacement Boots
Cornuthaum
and as backup Cloak of the Istari

Reason is that those items have too many votes that would be wasted if we don't try to spawn these items.
(sorry for the Tank items people, next week (week 7) is your week though)

now the 'famous' table:

Green=good votes, Red=bad votes
Green items are goals, Yellow items are backup (for when other goals have been met)
Name of item Amount of votes last week Amount of current votes
Blade of Thuringwethil
4
6
Morgul-Hammer
3
2
Elven Long Sword
10
10
Blacksword of Nan Elmoth
5
6
Executioner's Sword
10
1
Katana
6
5
Elven Long Bow
49
83
Enforcer's Crossbow
3
3
Assassin's Crossbow
3
0
Compound Bow
6
0
Heavy Crossbow
2
8

 

Name of item Amount of votes last week Amount of current votes
Adamantite Cuirass
1
1
Combat Gi
3
2
Trollskin Armor
3
3
Mithril Cuirass
2
3
Mithril Chain Mail
1
3
Steel Brigandine
0
0
     
Cloak of the Istari
12
18
Elven Cloak
5
5
Cloak of Balrog Flame
31
0
Shadow Cloak
0
0
 
Pair of Displacement Boots
10
29
Pair of Elven Boots
0
1
Set of Chain Mail Leggings
1
1
 
Pair of Helm's Gauntlets
1
1
Pair of Beleg's Gloves
0
0
Pair of Tulkas' Gauntlets
4
4
Pair of Elven Gloves
7
6
 
Cornuthaum
7
28
Helm of Intelligence
0
2
Helm of Durin
2
1
 
Buckler of Mandos
4
5
Mithril Shield
0
0
     
Tattoo of Endurance
7
17
Tattoo of Augmentation
3
6
Tattoo of Flame
6
7
Tattoo of Ice
1
1
Tattoo of Steel
1
1
     
L. Tattoo of Steel
0
1
L. Tattoo of Jigorokano
4
7
L. Tattoo of Endurance
1
2
L. Tattoo of Augmentation
2
3
L. Tattoo of Flame
4
5
L. Tattoo of Ice
0
0


last notes: please stop voting for the items that display in red cells, those votes are utterly useless

Mr Bones February 13 2005 7:41 PM EST

Nice bit of work Shade and it will be a shame if we don't use this info to start getting items into the market.

The Elven Long Bow seems a good place to start.
We can spawn this easy people

Dark Skye February 13 2005 7:43 PM EST

i would personaly like to see people vote for more Exec's the reason being is it is the affordable alternative to newer players who cant get a morg els Bot Bone... making more players more competitive and keeping more players in the game. It seems that when the higher lvl items spawn in the Auctions... only the players with over 1.5 million in cash have a chance to even get the item they voted for. I would like to see some of the less nessicary items coming to auctions, as i see no item is pointless, because not all players can afford the biggest and best... while this post is a great service to the cb community, but as a new player why would they want to vote on an item they wouldnt have a chance compeating for? this is just my 2 thoughts on the subject... not to be in any way dissrespectful to anyone in this community, or to Shade the creator of this post... but lets see some items for the average cb player spawned... for the good of the community??

Mistress Reyna February 13 2005 7:50 PM EST

such items that are spawned in the store such as the lesser "non 1mil" items when caught are also put into my newb packs it some of them are spawned in the auctions it would allow the newbs to be able to purchase them and compete with each other instead of them having to rent that 100+k toj from rentals just to get somthing accomplished.

Majestik Moose February 13 2005 9:00 PM EST

Sorry for the mess I made above :( I'll give it another shot.


First of all: I personally find The Black Market to be an interesting subject, as it reminds on real life society alot.

I have made a little numbered list on some ideas that may go/ not go through peoples head, when considering what to vote for.

Personally (If I count my CB1 voting as well), I have done 1,2,4,6,7 and 9. I don't know about the rest of you, but I think that I'm not alone on some points :)

However, I have become convinced that a working BM would be good for me, (egoistic aren't we), and therefore, I will vote according to the guide. A working BMVG, speeds up the game, and helps chars on all PRs growing faster, and campers/forgers getting more costumers.

well.. the list:

1. Wouldn't it be cool if I voted for the Mithril Cuirass.. it has no votes..
-Remedy: none.. There will always be anarchists.

2. I am a camper/bargainer, and don't want to deflate the market. Better vote for a Steel Brigandine, and hope I get it for 5k.
- Remedy: well.. more items = funnier CB = more costumers for the campers?

3. BM.. what is that?!?
- Remedy: threads like this :)

4. I never vote in BM. I frankly don't care about it.
- Remedy: Varying objects in BMVG, more people following it.

5. I would like to have a BoNE.. better vote for it, the rest 168 votes should be no problem?.
- Remedy: Threads like this, information to new players on the BM.

6. I have seen Mooses' vote on the elbow that is in BMVG..I don't want him to have that, as he might be near beating me.
- Remedy: at least two goals per week in BMVG, on items that are good for different strats.. for example not advising both ax/exbow at the same time

7. Shade runs the Black market voting guide stupid.. He never advises the things I want.
- Remedy: People: give him tips, and Shade: try (as you currently do) to find out what people wants.

8. I want to sell my vote.
- Remedy: None. I guess that people, who buys votes, buy them on stuff that are certain to spawn.

9. Corn is on BMVG, and I would need one // Corn is on BMVG, and I have nothing else in BMVG to put the vote on, so I may as well put it on Corn.
- Remedy: None.. Problem solved (I guess).

AdminShade February 14 2005 2:10 AM EST

about point 7: not many people have actually told me what they wanted (for this week especially) so i'm still kind of in the dark about most peoples wishes...

but there seem to be more mage based characters than tank based...

AdminShade February 14 2005 10:10 AM EST

Elven Long Bow 94 146 35.6%


'only' 52 votes left to cast!!!

come on people you can do it.

Reebok February 14 2005 11:01 AM EST

Moose - As for the people selling their vote thing that solved itself too, no one wanted to buy my vote. =)

That said, my vote is no completely in the service of the BMVG I don't really care if it goes to waste on things I don't want anymore, because even when I voted for things I did want (katanas) I could never afford them.

So, Shade from here on (unless stated otherwise) my vote is yours. I voted for ELB as that seemed what you were going for this time, and it seemed to have a decent spawn chance.

AdminShade February 14 2005 1:00 PM EST

thank you for your cooperation :)

Quark February 14 2005 1:26 PM EST

Great work! I've been wasting votes on a CoBF for the past couple of weeks, but people are getting cash faster than me so this week I wasted the vote on the MCM. Note to self - can't buy an existing BM auction by voting for it after it comes up.

Given the distribution of stuff in the game, I'd recommend voting for tank items more than mage items since the tanks are having a hard time. But that includes tattoos for tanks in the list - a couple more ToE and ToA's would be helpful so that not everyone runs mage strats.

AdminShade February 15 2005 9:35 AM EST

Elven Long Bow 119 146 18.5%
Pair of Displacement Boots 47 81 42.0%

Both are going fine :)

only 27 votes left for the ELB and 34 left on the DBs.

Skunk February 15 2005 11:07 AM EST

I just didn't knew were to vote on, so I saw this post and I voted for the ELB just for you guys ;)

AdminShade February 16 2005 8:19 AM EST

Elven Long Bow 137 146 6.2%


only 6 more votes!!! you can do it! you can do it!

AdminG Beee February 16 2005 8:22 AM EST

Elven Long Bow 140 146 4.1%

AdminShade February 16 2005 8:30 AM EST

only 4 more votes and after this the Displacement Boots :)

{CB1ate}aupStar February 16 2005 10:47 AM EST

voted for the elb, one more vote until it spawns..hehe btw, I'd really love to see a few more of those ToEs in the market..hehe there are only 9 in the game and Valinor has most of them...=*(*

AdminShade February 16 2005 6:37 PM EST

Elven Long Bow is in black market auctions now.

next item:

Pair of Displacement Boots 52 81 35.8%

only 29 more votes!!!

Eternal February 17 2005 5:11 AM EST

TATTOO OF ENDURANCE PLEASE

AdminShade February 20 2005 7:19 PM EST

Pair of Displacement Boots only needs 12 more votes and then we can move on to the next 'goal'


also see next post: BMVG Week 8
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