Ranking the relative desirability of items (in General)

Sukotto [lookingglas] March 30 2005 4:48 PM EST

In this thread Chet wonders what's the point of "Ave price over NW". After some discussion, he concludes Jonathan should turn that column into a "Worth Upgrading" index...the more negative, the worse the index.

Since I had a lull in my work today, I thought I would generate such a listing. First I removed items with a negative ratio, then assigned a maximum value to items with a blank ratio. (This is arbitrary. I could have assigned a minimum value instead).

Sorting high->low shows us the best->worst relative desirability of items from an economic viewpoint.


RankNameExtantAve NWAve price / NW
2Elven Long Sword15$1,131,312unknown
3Pair of Beleg's Gloves15$89,956unknown
4Lucerne Hammer39$41,168unknown
5Steel Breastplate24$21,895unknown
8Elven Long Bow22$3,269,446$4,207,423
9Blacksword of Nan Elmoth20$1,523,591$2,891,772
10Cloak of the Istari24$107,095$2,393,154
11Blade of Thuringwethil18$1,453,275$2,207,978
12Cloak of Balrog Flame34$1,875,944$2,144,558
13Pair of Displacement Boots34$569,281$1,881,310
15Pair of Elven Gloves29$67,322$1,150,256
16Helm of Intelligence28$163,371$1,068,896
17Buckler of Mandos28$110,784$1,056,402
18Pair of Elven Boots27$166,774$956,573
19Tattoo of Endurance74$926,239$781,714
20Mithril Chain Mail67$347,777$728,336
21Pair of Tulkas' Gauntlets39$127,697$715,767
22Tattoo of Augmentation56$896,579$692,392
23Adamantite Cuirass14$722,839$630,764
24Helm of Durin41$168,899$626,164
25Trollskin Armor33$199,320$622,653
26Shadow Cloak25$138,648$498,553
27Elven Cloak25$93,332$493,675
28Enforcer's Crossbow36$777,744$484,125
29Mage Shield145$118,866$481,611
30Mithril Shield38$164,775$422,097
31Mithril Cuirass36$347,087$393,752
32Assassin's Crossbow31$737,756$357,862
33Pair of Helm's Gauntlets26$97,176$350,024
34Tattoo of Flame24$622,830$335,013
35Tattoo of Steel34$340,816$314,762
36Tattoo of Ice31$210,691$268,936
37Set of Chain Mail Leggings24$152,576$263,118
38Executioner's Sword101$592,190$210,687
40Combat Gi35$233,047$202,497
41Tattoo of Jigorokano649$650,062$185,375
43Compound Bow357$443,216$46,287
44Lesser Tattoo of Flame104$67,257$43,153
45Lesser Tattoo of Steel113$60,807$41,441
46Lesser Tattoo of Augmentation129$77,493$39,996
47Lesser Tattoo of Endurance144$76,762$39,620
48Lesser Tattoo of Ice112$42,778$33,132
49Pair of Leather Boots1624$7,372$8,416
50Pair of Leather Gloves1901$5,081$6,911
52Hard Leather Armor1122$7,120$5,842
54Pair of Leather Gauntlets669$7,359$4,442
56Hard Leather Cap1417$5,210$4,055
57Soft Leather Armor1280$3,390$2,026
58Ring Mail197$7,901$1,921
61Pair of Steel-shod Boots406$6,023$1,645
62Pair of Cesti436$6,774$1,624
63Set of Greaves875$2,121$1,352
64Leather Scale Mail467$4,634$1,272
67Main Gauche153$4,959$878
70Tower Shield243$13,789$402

Jon, the following standard item names are not in the dictionary, would you add them please?

Special J March 30 2005 4:52 PM EST

Wow, nice bit of work Sukotto!

Sukotto [lookingglas] March 30 2005 5:00 PM EST

I got a chatmail pointing out that I don't have all items listed.
The reason for that is that I deliberately did not include items with a negative index value. At the time, I thought it wasn't worth mentioning items with such a low value.

In retrospect, I wish I had included them, just for the sake of completeness. If I have some time later I'll add them to the thread.

AdminShade March 30 2005 5:05 PM EST

you shouldn't have put in:

4 Lucerne Hammer 39 $41,168 unknown
5 Steel Breastplate 24 $21,895 unknown
6 Awl-Pike 136 $8,777 unknown
7 Whip 4767 $159 unknown


Sukotto [lookingglas] March 30 2005 5:13 PM EST

Here are the rest. According to the index, it is not worth upgrading any of these items because you have a negative return on your investment. I include them here in order to capture all the items in a single snapshot

Kite Shield475$8,366 ($289)
Small Wooden Shield1082$1,095 ($731)
Steel Brigandine352$34,786 ($1,869)
Mace531$3,908 ($2,032)
Staff Sling240$22,687 ($2,591)
War Hammer99$15,322 ($2,679)
Rapier2898$1,159 ($2,734)
Short Bow328$16,627 ($6,041)
Chain Mail131$10,365 ($6,907)
Long Sword67$30,803 ($9,518)
Two-Handed Flail205$85,221 ($10,747)
Double Chain Mail93$21,244 ($12,984)
Fluted Steel Cuirass223$37,673 ($13,558)
Broad Sword160$19,460 ($16,914)
Long Bow391$32,939 ($17,389)
Lochaber Axe215$47,048 ($23,260)
Battle Axe248$42,418 ($24,429)
Glaive220$31,541 ($25,779)
Banded Mail86$12,771 ($25,838)
Morning Star118$30,409 ($27,681)
Scythe119$58,176 ($29,826)
Composite Bow470$80,279 ($30,029)
Light Crossbow288$29,498 ($31,709)
Halberd268$67,063 ($32,636)
Great Axe245$70,227 ($33,286)
Heavy Crossbow293$87,230 ($35,878)
Bastard Sword178$60,247 ($38,926)
Claymore131$56,673 ($38,949)
Steel Cuirass61$30,738 ($41,236)
Beaked Axe88$33,622 ($244,318)

Sukotto [lookingglas] March 30 2005 5:14 PM EST

Shade, there's a difference between knowing an item has no value, and not knowing an item's value.

QBsutekh137 March 30 2005 5:40 PM EST

Nice list, man! Great work.

Grant March 30 2005 7:20 PM EST

Shade's point is valid. Some items don't trade because of their intrinsic lack of value. The words 'glaringly obvious error' come to mind when you see whips ranked above elven long bows.


OK, I think I got that out of my system.

Vagabond March 30 2005 7:26 PM EST

Well he did say

First I removed items with a negative ratio, then assigned a maximum value to items with a blank ratio. (This is arbitrary. I could have assigned a minimum value instead).

So basically, ignore the top 7 items. It would have been less confusing if he did use a minimum value instead of a maximum.

Maelstrom March 30 2005 7:29 PM EST

Yep, it would have been less confusing if an Elven Long Sword had minimum value...!?

Sukotto [lookingglas] March 30 2005 9:09 PM EST

Yes. I faced the problem of having some obviously high ranking items (Morgul-Hammer) and some obviously low ones (Whip).

The problem with arbitrary choices is that it's not always the choice that another person might make.

If I were to do it again, perhaps I'd put them in a separate table. *shrug* If it's really that important to you then make your own list. All I did was consolidate and sort the meta-items stats page.

Reebok March 31 2005 12:39 PM EST

part that gets me is #4 Steel Breastplate

Sukotto [lookingglas] March 31 2005 1:43 PM EST

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