Stats: Beleg's vs Tulkas post change (in General)


Bolfen May 12 2005 5:55 PM EDT

A while ago I tested Beleg's vs Tulkas and only compared ranged damage. In ranged damage, the Beleg's did about 12% more damage. The stats are probably in the March or February archives.

But since the change, I hypothesized that Beleg's were no longer as strong as Tulka's.

And...I was right, sort of. The tests actually show that the damage is about equal per hit. But I found that in 21 trials I managed 8% more hits with Beleg's and therefore a bit more total damage.

My test compared attacks vs 7 common opponents, all lasting at least 5 rounds. I used Belegs +7 and Tulkas +10, theoretically granting an extra 0.07 archery or 10% strength.

Damage per hit was about 3% higher with the Tulka's, which when accounting for the different +bonus, is probably a wash.

The Beleg's however, scored 8% more hits and therefore 3% more overall damage, in spite of bonus difference.

Since the Tulka's bonus extends into melee rounds and also confer some damage reduction (by adding to strength), I'd say that TG's are now much better now, even for archers.

And yes, I had archery trained to 1.00 even with the strength bonus.

Data in the next post.

Bolfen May 12 2005 5:56 PM EDT

15043	5	14273	4	16046	4	45362	13	196491	102%	94%
7643	5	10774	5	5627	6	24044	16	125847	83%	95%
3740	2	4591	3	4789	3	13120	8	35620	264%	97%
13951	6	14921	6	15482	6	44354	18	266124	102%	102%
10568	4	10089	4	11366	4	32023	12	128092	110%	91%
13085	5	12484	6	13130	6	38699	17	219109	119%	105%
14569	5	12937	4	13482	6	40988	15	205485	91%	96%
						238590	99	1176768	103%	97%
16367	4	14752	4	17243	4	48362	12	193448		
8825	6	8007	6	8449	6	25281	18	151686		
4842	1	4244	1	4414	1	13500	3	13500		
14577	6	15555	6	13492	6	43624	18	261744		
12835	3	10999	4	11378	3	35212	10	116635		
11864	5	12638	5	12402	5	36904	15	184520		
14630	5	12346	6	15594	5	42570	16	225196		
						245453	92	1146729

Chargerz-Back May 12 2005 6:00 PM EDT

what what you forget is that 10% more strength won't make that much difference when you only have 30k base ST trained with a ToA on it.

Manta May 12 2005 6:20 PM EDT

Another point: you could instead train 0.93 archery, and use the Beleg's to get full 1.00
With a ToA granting extra strength, and hence more experience needed for that 0.7 archery, this could make them more convenient.

I do not understand: how comes that the Beleg's scored more hits? A statistical fluctuation?
Or do Beleg's grant more hits, even when you already have 1.00 archery to start with?

Chargerz-Back May 12 2005 6:33 PM EDT

must have been luck with the ToA randomness

Barron [CB2BANK Investors Club] May 12 2005 7:05 PM EDT

Belegs=the higher the archery level the greater the chance of getting 1 or more hits in the 2nd round?
Maybe that's the explanation
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