ToA's ST/Tulkas' (in General)


[Banned]Monty May 22 2005 11:37 AM EDT

Tulkas' don't add the % to the ToA's ST, it gives the % to the base ST trained.But I think it should, because myself and I know of some other's rely on their ToA for their ST/DX.

So maybe Jon could consider making the Tulkas' give the ST bonus to the ToA's ST it gives as well?

Thanks. =D

QBRanger May 22 2005 11:39 AM EDT

That would be way too powerful, sort of like having the boost from TG's happen before the boost from a HoE if you wear both.

[Banned]Monty May 22 2005 12:05 PM EDT

anyone else have some input?

BrandonLP May 22 2005 12:07 PM EDT

Ranger has a very valid point. If you're going to do that, you need to make the Elven gear work the same way and I can definitely see how that wouldn't be close to balanced.

Xiaz on Hiatus May 22 2005 12:09 PM EDT

Why not just let minions wearing Tattoos also wear body armour?

Keep dreaming Monty ;)

[FireBreathing]Chicken May 22 2005 12:09 PM EDT

Had a similar discussion sometime back
http://www.carnageblender.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=001HNh

Though circumstances have somewhat changed. Heavy armors are out, light bonus armors are in. To summarize that post, we just argued back and forth that the heavy penalties caused by heavy armors would also need to be brought into effect, and many players already bought heavy armors for their ToA only minions.

LumpBot May 22 2005 4:29 PM EDT

Ahem, since I was the main debater from the previous post, I'll explain for you monty. Recent changes have made it impossible for this to work. Tanks are just fine now and don't really need more assistance. With the new % per point Jon established, this would make you god like. Also, it would pretty much kill the need for AC gear. No one would want it because tulks and elven gear would be so much better.

maulaxe May 22 2005 5:32 PM EDT

do the penalties from armor apply before ToA as well? i assumed so, but it's never good to assume too much!

LumpBot May 22 2005 5:34 PM EDT

Yes penalties apply before the tattoo, so you don't get a huge STR/DEX boost but...the penalties are almost null for AC armor.

maulaxe May 22 2005 5:39 PM EDT

hehe and while we're at it, we should petition jon to make bonuses/penalties apply after enchantments as well
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