Lets bribe Jonathan, see inside why: (in General)
May 24 2005 4:13 PM EDT
Inspired by this post
and this post
i would like to suggest bribing!!! :)
Jonathan with a sum of USD to make his efforts in adding some items worth of his time.
This sum of USD could also perhaps be collected in $CB2 that a player buys (or multiple in the form of smaller packs).
Now for the items:
Base AC: 16
Upgrade cost: ~80% of that of CML
DX penalty: 10%
Magic penalty: 15%
A Set of Chain Mail Leggings  (+31) worth $2,350,764
AL (+31) would have a NW ~1.880 mil then
Base AC: 8
Upgrade cost: similar to Tulka's
DX penalty: -5%
Magic penalty: -8%
Rogue's Coif: (would fit with Shadow Cloak and Assassins Crossbow)
Base AC: 4
Upgrade cost: similar to Elven Cloak ? (should cost a lot to get past +10)
DX bonus: 1% DX per enchantment
Magic penalty: -3%
Cannot be forged
RC  (+10) worth $1,069,576 (same as EC but this should be a higher imo, more like 1.5 mil)
Feedback is friendly looked upon even if you flame me :P
While we are at it...
Gloves of Arda
Base AC: 3
Upgrade cost: similar to Cornuthaum (should cost a lot to get past +10)
Magic bonus: 1% Enchantments per point
DX Penalty: -3%
STR Penalty: -5%
Cannot be forged
A Tintalle Staff
Upgrade cost: Curve similar to a Lochaber Axe (inotherwords: very expensive)
Function: If x is greater, add 1/2% for each point to DD spells on char. If + is greater, add 1/2% for each point to all non-DD spells.
DX Penalty: -10%
STR Penalty: -10%
May 24 2005 6:21 PM EDT
Verifex, if those had the slightest chance to be added, it would be by decreasing a percentage of HP, not DX or ST. Everyone knows that mages don't need DX or ST, so decreasing those isn't an issue. Decrease a mage's HP, and he might need to rethink his strategy.
May 24 2005 6:23 PM EDT
Maelstrom, also non mages can wear those items, think of hybrid strategies also ;)
May 24 2005 6:46 PM EDT
Bah, hybrids, who needs 'em :p
But the fact is, Jon has the "mage staff" idea on the FORS list, so it will never be added, and he's just removed the magic bonus from EGs, so why would he add a new kind of glove that adds to magic?
FORS isn't in the spell-checker? Weird...
Adamantite Shield 
give those silly VB users something more to worry about when hitting a wall...
upgrade costs similar to that of the old CoBF...100k per ac +
Thunder Hammer  (+0)
hits once, maximum per round. the + cannot be upgraded. damage dealt is dealt to all minions, but the father back a minion is, the less damage he recieves. so it would look like this...
Minion A smashes the ground with a Thunder hammer!
Minion W takes damage! , Minion X takes damage! , Minion Y takes damage!  and so on and so forth...
when it gets down to one minion, it can be more powerful like a coc/fb
Minion A OBLITERATED Minion Z 
Base AC: 2
Upgrade Costs : Fairly high ( Thinking 25-40% more then EG / EB )
DX/STR Bonus : +1% DX and +1% STR point per enchantment point
Magic penalty: -3%
A shield, not a power shield :)
Tattoo ( no lesser form )
Gives bonus to UC and .32 Bonus to Dex and Str. Also grants a small amount of Evasion
Ooh... a tatoo that MAKES you a Jig! I like it!
May 24 2005 8:26 PM EDT
Tattoo of Cancerous growth
Grants HP and a low Decay.
Mage Items!! Please Gloves that Grant DD+% Bonus!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!
May 24 2005 8:32 PM EDT
The will not happen Lukey.
WOMD [1000x1000] (+500), unupgradable, hits all opposing minions, negates all opposing spells, negates all opposing enchantments, negates all opposing AC.
May 24 2005 8:52 PM EDT
While we are at it, Arrow of deletion
Deletes any minion that gets shot with these arrows.
Awesome, that's a brilliant idea war. I mean, that would add a WHOLE NEW DIMENSION to the strategic world of CB. :P
Base AC 5
Upgrade Cost: No clue
Increases the total damage ( post STR and Enchantments, including EC ) of 2 handed weapons by 1% for every plus
Magic Pen : -2%
Cannot be forged
May 25 2005 3:29 AM EDT
No no, here is what I think the best item that people will rush to buy =) !!!
This will be a --> "Battle Ring"
When wear + 1 Battle Allocation (BA) refresh per 10 minutes.
Can be war up to 2 BA rings total Per Account. (Take no extra item space)
Does not spawn in stores, Not Upgradeable!
Ring can only be bought from Jon, and one ring will be put in action per month with min bet of 5Mil CB2.
So, what you guys think of that, I bet Central Bank can get a lot money very fast, as well as increase the CB2 ratio for USD.
Why not a BA Fairy while we are at it?
There are 5 of these "BA" Fairies in Circulation. *DOES NOT HAVE TO BE EQUIPPED*
They grant you an instant +50 BA (even if your at 160)... Every 1-3 hours (random) they jump from user to user randomly.
Name: Dragon Gauntlets
Item Type: Gloves
Base: AC 12 (+6)
Special Proporties:+1% to DD Spells per each plus, -3% to Dex, Forgeable.
Go Single Mages!
May 25 2005 10:09 AM EDT
I am amazed at the creativeness of those items, but they aren't the items nor the feedback i was hoping of.
My idea was to create balanced items that Jonathan could put into the game to possibly at a point create item sets that was asked about in the first post linked.
But all the reactions (well 90% of them) are just about fantastic items that would make a balance of 0...
Thanks but no thanks for the replies that had nothing to do with the initial thought, I hoped that the people were ready for it, false hopes i think :(
May 25 2005 10:30 AM EDT
I can't figure out the difference with the Rogue's Coif and a normal Elven Cloak =\ Don't they both just up Dex? Also the Adamantite Shield is pointless, we have the Mithril shield to do that. I do like AC gloves idea, and I think the BA ring would be interesting to see how much people paid for an extra BA or 2 per minute =P
Why don't we stick with (and flesh out) the basic sets we have now;
1) Adamantite: Hi AC, cheap to upgrade, large penalties to Dex and Magic.
2) Mithril: Moderate AC, moderate to upgrade. No dex/magic penatlies
3) Elven: Moderate AC, Expensive to upgrade. Bonus to Dexterity.
4) 'Named': Good AC, Fair to upgrade. Bonus to Strength.
5) 'Wizard' Equipment: Poor AC, expensive to upgrade. Gives bonuses to DD/ED/EO.
Name ideas; (Shade, Pauldrons are shoulder guards :P )
Body: Already Exists
Footwear: Adamantite Leggings/Sabots
Gloves: Adamantite Gauntlets/Bracers
Headgear: Adamantite Helm/Full Helm/Great Helm
Shield: Adamantite Tower Shield
Body: Already Exists
Footwear: Mithril Leggings
Gloves: Mithril Gloves/Bracers
Headgear: Mithril Coif
Shield: Already Exists (maybe it should be given less of a Dex penalty...)
Body: Elven Tunic
Cloak: Already Exists
Footwear: Already Exists
Gloves: Already Exists
Headgear: Elven Hood
Shield: Elven Buckler/Target Shield
Don't know enough history of middle earth to give ideas for sets 4 and 5! :(
Not very inspired, but It's home time. I'm sure there are better suggestions out there! ;)
May 25 2005 10:58 AM EDT
A full "set" of UC gear:
Helm of Ecthelion
Now for the "new" items:
Name: Judo Belt
Type of item: Cloak
Special Properties: Each +2 added, makes the belt a new color, each color represents a better understanding of Unarmed Combat and Evasion tactics, so each color upgrade grants 1 to UC and 1% to Evasion, but only if UC is trained. Magic Penalty -2%
(I got the idea for this one from another thread, just to be fair)
Name: Aura of the Master
Type of Item: Power Shield
Special Properties: For each + that is added your "aura" becomes more powerful, this means that on top of direct AC blockage the aura also grants extra protection against ranged weapons through extra evasion during the ranged rounds. This power is only available to those who have UC trained. Magic Penalty -2%.
If all UC gear is worn, the user is granted +5 to UC and +5% to evasion.
May 25 2005 11:33 AM EDT
A full "set" of Joker Clothing...
Jokers Hat : AC 0, grants Evasion (caused as a result of opponent laughing)
Jokers Boots : -10% Dex (you can't run in those !), +10% Magic (click your heals)
Jokers Trousers : AC 0, Style bonus +5 (reduces opponents HP by 25% due to feeling inferior)
Jokers Tunic : AC 0, 15% Archery bonus damage and to hit (opponents are dazzled by the colours and don't see the ammo coming)
Speciality Melee Wep : Custard Pies x73 1 Handed, Drains humour for 75% (Upgradeable after several minutes in the oven, erm blacksmith)
Speciality Ranged Wep : Single launch mono bicycle wheel - instant death to first minion run over with it.
Special Bonus for fully equipping the set. Ability to shout "JOKER" as a battle cry causing opponents to miss next turn.
and if you're wondering what he would look like :)
An Undead Familar (Tattoo )
Scimitar of the Phoenix (Weapon )
Base damage of 78
Upgrades costs: Not sure but maybe between ELS and Katana
Effect: 15% of damage dealt by SoP is inflicted upon the opposing teams minions. 5% Is inflicted to your allied minions
Fire Arrows ( Ammo, duh )
Base of 4
Upgrades ( I guess close to normal arrows )
Effect: Damages enemies minions ( besides the one hit ) for 10% of the damage to the minion that was hit
Effect: Returns .4% of the inflicted melee damage on wearer back to attacking minion
Tunic of the Red Flame (BA )
Upgrades : no clue
Effect: For each plus on this item, user gains 1% damage reuction from Fireball ( applied after Protection / AC / Endurance )
Tunic of the Silver Moon (BA)
Upgrades : no clue
Effect: For each plus on this item, user gains 1% damage reuction from Magic Missle ( applied after Protection / AC / Endurance )
Tunic of the Frigid Mountain (BA )
Upgrades : no clue
Effect: For each plus on this item, user gains 1% damage reuction from Cold of Cold ( applied after Protection / AC / Endurance )
Cloak of Invisablity (Cloak )
Upgrades: (yet agian, no clue )
Effect: For each+ on CoIn you character gains a 1% chance to completely dodge any attack made upon it.
:) its dumb but im tired >.>
May 25 2005 4:37 PM EDT
<Shade> Jon: howmuch should we bribe you with to add more items :P
<Shade> someone gave a very good idea but the game would need more items to make that idea work
<Jonathan> sorry, I'll add items when I think it's a good idea and not before :)
alas the items won't be added any time soon but it's a good exercise to check what we could come up with that is at least normal :)
May 25 2005 6:38 PM EDT
Dang, and I thought the Joker would swing it...
May 25 2005 6:43 PM EDT
Jonathan: sorry, I'll add items when I think it's a good idea and not before :)
He doesn't say that it won't be soon, simply that he'll do it when he wants. He could be adding some items in right now!
Think for a minute just how hard it is for Jon to balance a new item into the game. If you're lucky he might introduce one of these in the next change month but I wouldn't count on it.
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