Need help for a theory (in General)


Duke May 26 2005 3:18 AM EDT

I am working on something that should give us the exact PR calculation.
So i need some help i need ppl to loan me stuff, i need 3 item of the EXACT same NW that is over 50K NW and 1 item that have the same NW that the 3 others item combine.The item type must not be cloak or body armor or power shield.

Thx duke

deifeln May 26 2005 3:38 AM EDT

does the single item need to be exactly the NW of the other three combined or just very close?

[-war-] May 26 2005 6:52 AM EDT

this has already been studied


1 piece of armor being 50k nw = same pr as 3 pieces having same nw combined

the higher the combined nw of character stuff, the lower the pr will increase. So over all at way up there nw, pr will not increase much compared to a very low nw character increasing couple 10k nw.

AdminShade May 26 2005 6:58 AM EDT

IronWolf, i don't think you get the point of this.


"the higher the combined nw of character stuff, the lower the pr will increase."

The more NW you have on your character the more your PR will increase, this is a fact and Duke and I want to try and get the exact formula to what does what.


"So over all at way up there nw, pr will not increase much compared to a very low nw character increasing couple 10k nw."

indeed a higher mPR character gains less iPR from the same NW that a lower mPR character does. That is why we try to figure out what calculation is used for this difference, whether it is a % used or a NW / mpr or something more difficult.


"this has already been studied"

there has been some studies to it indeed, but not about the part we are trying to get to right now.

AdminShade May 26 2005 7:04 AM EDT

A Pair of Leather Gloves [1] (+9) owned by Ilúvatar for 2 points started at 7:00 AM EDT
A Pair of Leather Gloves [1] (+9) owned by Ilúvatar for 2 points
A Pair of Leather Gloves [1] (+9) owned by Ilúvatar for 3 points

if +9 proves to be too low for the 50k NW minimum then i will put them in again, afterwards i wil send them to your character Duke

Duke May 26 2005 9:15 AM EDT

Now i need a 223K NW armor.Anything very close will do.

Quark May 26 2005 10:57 AM EDT

Loaning A Mithril Cuirass [35] (+30) 287,237 for a day - incoming.

Duke May 26 2005 6:10 PM EDT

Here is my conclusion prolly jon can actualy confirme but i am sure that i am very close or that what Jon did use.

I will put thing very simple PR=MPR+(NW of TAT + armor* Stacking reduction).


Explaination on Stacking reduction

White paladin Power Rating: 141,666 MPR That my char without item
White paladin Power Rating: 145,084 MPR + 1 pair of leathers gloves
White paladin Power Rating: 149,897 MPR + 3 pair of leathers gloves

The increase from the 1 pair alone is 3418
The increase from having 3 pair is 8231

Quick math ( 10254 ) that is assuming a linear scaling - the real impact 8231 = 2023 or in % 80% of the NW is add to PR.TAT work the same it will be consider like any others item.So it will be affect by Item stacking reduction.




White paladin Power Rating: 142,730 MPR
White paladin Power Rating: 180,277 MPR + DB+39 (37 497)
White paladin Power Rating: 150,961 LG1 LG2 LG3 (+8231)
White paladin Power Rating: 184,719 DB LG LG2 LG3 (+41989)

That about the samething as before but you will see that in % the reduction decrease when i add the DB.For the record the DB have more that 1M NW while the leathers gloves have only 70K.

37597+10254 = 47851 that is the linear scaling
Real impact is 41 989 in % only 87% of the Nw have a impact.
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