Idea --> spend XP for extra BA (in General)

See, if your like me, your really not short on MPR. Your short on NW.

Before the big change, and actually all the way till about April, I spent all my money on BA. Trying to stay in the rat race with my mage team for as long as possible, I forwent NW for pure PR.

Now, I'd like my NW please.

People that have high NW and low mpr really have no right to complain. The have a quick and effective way to dump that cash and even out: buying ba. The people that are really kinda stuck are the people that don't have the money to spend to reach the weapon allowance that we were so graciously granted.

So, let me spend some of my XP on BA in order to even out my NW/PR ratio.

only thing this would help is for forgers and campers to buy BA...Dont see how anyone trying to get Exp would wanna spend exp to get BA...

I thought buying BA was to get more Exp to train on your minions....?

And dont see how it would change anything on the NW/PR ratio.

if you can earn more XP per BA then you spend to buy it, it will be worth it.

now as to whether it is a good idea to implement, i'd say it's about the same as allowing you to blacksmith down your weapons.

personally i think it's rather silly, but it's just fine as a stupidity tax.

i was thinking about this a while ago too undertow...

say you had 12k exp on your minions, but that didnt really matter to you, what mattered was that auction ending fairly soon and u need cash. get rid of that exp, fight, make the cash and then u can get it. it would give you more flexibility in your earnings, although this would (in a way) make it some sort of "crazy time" every day. although, following that logic, it is a semi-crazy exp day every day if u use ur money to buy ba for exp. u earn less money, and get more exp. sometimes id like to earn less exp and get some money.

I'm not understanding this.

So you want to be able to "trade" EXP for BA. And in turn use this BA to do what?

Fight? Then you'd just get back EXP and money.
Forge? Yeh, I see that. But then every forger would just fight all thier BA and then use the EXP earn to regain thier BA.
Camp? Don't need that much BA do you?

I'm not being stupid or sarcastic here, but I don't see what the "benefit" of this is. /scratches head.

I find myself in a similar situation and deduced the following.

Since i used my bought BA to improve my MPR, i kinda bought a better progress at the forge.
So now i forge, and the extra MPR gives me extra NW, similar to how rewards go up when fighting more efficient with higher NW. (those that did not buy BA, but put the money into NW)

Or is it really your point that you want to reduce your MPR absolute, and not relative?

To use the well worn words of the man himself...

BURN THE STUPID IDEA!

buying BA with money is a cache drain, it isnt profitable (to some extent of course) and its meant for people that value exp more than money (or %rpm more than money, or even camping ability more than money) to buy more actions that they can do in the game

if you would be able to buy BA with exp it would make you make more money, at the cost of experience (well logical duh!) which is against the system it works in now.

and what about a 1 pr character without any exp? would you be able to buy BA then or not? get the character into negative exp?

too many buts to make it work, even if it wouldn't be an ORS

well, to your last comment shade....If you try to buy BA with only $5k, it says you do not have $xx,xxx to buy xxx BA. So I'm sure it would do that for exp as well.....?

I like the quote "Camp? you don't need that much BA do you?"
Just to let you know if I buy all my BA, I usually use it within 2 hours or less.

Buying BA isn't profitable? Shade you obviously have never camped before with a 1 PR char ;)

You would not untrain your xp to get more ba. I mean, I suppose you could, but I wouldn't.

When I get done with my ba, I earn about 25k cash and 20k xp.

Now, I can spend that cash, and get about 100 ba, which I can use to get more ba, to get more cash. Eventually it all ends up being expierance.

Instead, I want to do the oppisite. I want to use my 20k xp to buy BA, then keep the cash. I wouldn't be getting my xp "back" any more than I get my cash back when I fight.

What are you doing when you buy ba? Your boiling down your right rewards into pure xp. I want to boil down my fight rewards into pure cash. This is because my NW needs to catch my Mpr. Right now it's behind.

For those of you who say "What's the point, you'll just get your xp back." I say "What's the point of buying xp now? You just get your money back."

Also, this would not be an "extra" batch of ba you can purchase. You'd get the same, what, 567? Only it would say "You can buy extra BA for XXX cash or XXX xp. You have XXX more BA you can buy today.

Buy BA: _____ BA in cash. _____ Ba in XP.

Buying BA is profitable for fighting too if you have an efficient pr character, and it is much easier with the halving of the price. This idea is an interesting one, and I can see why you would want to buy with exp, but its probably not a very smart thing to actually do often. Using the exp will help you more than getting a great weapon, but the weapon is more interesting.

All hail the idea!!!....personally i see a gain if we could find a xp/money ratio (as far as worth) we could use that to buy ba from the same pool we are allowed each day. Money matters in this game too not just the XP. everyday is possibly a crazy XP day...why not a crazy $$$ day?.

My mpr/score ratio is 4/1. My PR/score ratio is ~3/1, but buying ba is still not profitable for me. My average fight reward is about 225, my cost to buy is about 275.

I don't think Jon wanted it to be profitable for everyone to buy BA. I think it's much like everything else in this game: an option, but not a requirement.

Okay, the profitablity is getting off subject.

Due to NW affecting (effecting?) pr now, there is a NW/PR balance.

I know, that I am heavy on the PR end.

I want more money.

I want to spend XP to get it.

I could forge, but I hate forging, and so does Jon, and God.

I want to spend my XP on BA.

Then I remember what is most effective at making it profitable my newbie bonus and clan bonus of 17% and 14.5%.

The word you use is affecting.

Affect=Verb
Effect=Noun

I know you said you hate forging, but that really is the way to get more money so you probably won't get your wish solely because you hate forging.

I could forge, but I hate forging, and so does Jon, and God

/me also start chanting the mantra

BURN THE STUPID IDEA

Spaceman[camperr], June 18 2005 1:21 PM EDT
Buying BA isn't profitable? Shade you obviously have never camped before with a 1 PR char ;)

nope and even when camping with a 1 pr character, it doesn't give you a 100% guarantee at an item.

also with undertow's brilliant thinking a 1 pr character wouldn't be able to buy the ba for exp ;P

Chalk up Phaete to the list of people God hates. I know, he talks to me as I perform dark rituals in his honor.