Why is Dispel Magic listed as:
Dispel magic Value X (Something less than X)
No armor penalties etc. What do the 2 values mean?
chernobyl
August 5 2005 2:22 PM EDT
(Something less than X) is the actual effective value. This value (appears) to be a fixed percentage of the trained value.
More info wouldn't hurt here..
Warchild
August 5 2005 2:23 PM EDT
X = the number of points you have trained into it (not xp trained but number of times you have increased it one point)
Something less than X = Effect (dispel will cast for this during battles)
Undertow
August 5 2005 2:23 PM EDT
If you have DM and say... AS trained to the same amount, DM doesn't knock out all the AS. Only a %. I think it's 80%.
[T]Vestax
August 5 2005 2:24 PM EDT
In the case of:
# (#)
The first # is the actual level of the Spell. (#) in the other hand is the effective level of the spell. This number is not generated in any complex manor, it is always 80% of the first #. The effective level is the level that gets subtracted from the spells DM affects.
In the case of:
#/# (#)
The second # is the actual level of the spell. The first # is the level after penalties and bonuses from armor. And once again (#) is the effective level which will be 80% of the first #.
QBRanger
August 5 2005 2:33 PM EDT
You can take my DM as an example:
Dispel Magic: 175,628/154,060 (140,502)
The 175,628 is the adjusted level, that is after all item bonuses and minuses are included like a Corn or armor
The 154,060 is the trained level that I obtained via using xp.
The 140,502 is the effective level that is used in battle to decrease others spells. It is 80% of the adjusted level not the trained level. That is 140,052 levels are taken away from others AS, GA, VA, Haste, GS, or protection.
Hope that example helps.
QBRanger
August 5 2005 2:35 PM EDT
If you have no armor bonuses or minuses the adjusted level will be the same as the trained level so you will only see 2 values.
xxxx (yyyy)
xxxx being the trained and adjusted level
yyyy being the effective level.
Thanks for the explanation :)
Now a follup-up question:
Here's my FB spell on the home page:
Fireball: 129,043/116,255 (20,492)
The 129k is adjusted. The 116k is trained. But what the heck is the 20k in parentheses? My FB does way more damage than 20k.
[T]Vestax
August 5 2005 3:01 PM EDT
I believe the (20,492) is the damage it does per minion at full spread (5 minions). But I could be wrong.
QBRanger
August 5 2005 3:07 PM EDT
Vestax is correct the value in () is the value of damage to 5 minions.
The value in () for MM is the damage to single minion.
This thread is closed to new posts.
However, you are welcome to reference it
from a new thread; link this with the html
<a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=001STN">Spell Values on Home Page</a>