Corn VS AC (in General)


Grim Reaper September 22 2005 2:40 AM EDT

I am now wondering if I should go get a corn which at base is what? 3 mill?
Or get MCM and w/e other cheap ac I can get that has no penalties for same amount which could possibly give me "more" hp

I have been doing some math on AC vs Corn where both providing same increase in % to AS, one being increasing the level of AS and the other lowering the damage which in turn generates same amount of HP

For example:
250k AS, 20% increase from corn gives me 300k AS: at 33.6% of AS level as hp I get 100800hp.

At 250k AS,33.6% of that as HP gives me: 84000hp, 20% damage reduction allows me to gain additional 16800hp:84000+16800=100800 hp
So this is where corn vs AC is balanced.
So the above, the AC can win over corn when you put the cash into the armor instead of the corn, pr I think is only thing that increases bit more.
Now to put in the mix there is GA

As you all know, more hp on minion means GA will be able to hit for more where the minion has certain hp.

I think Ranger explained it well where someone hits the minion for 300k damage but the minion only has 100k hp, GA only retaliates for 53k damage. Even if the GA is at 400k level

So here is where corn could win and AC could lose:

If I have 300k hp and enemy does enough damage that my GA only retaliates for the 159000 damage

For the minion with AC, GA will do less against high hitters.

So these are the pros and cons:
Corn:
Pros:Fight off higher levels of DM, allow GA to do bigger damage
Cons:Can't really see any except the price of the helm

AC:
Pros: reduces damage and has possibility to "increase hp" better than corn where higher nw upgrades are required.
Cons:Lower AS means harder to fight higher DM, higher pr increase.

Grim Reaper September 22 2005 2:56 AM EDT

If someone could check into if corn gives AC and upgrade costs, especially what is after +10 thanks.
Post the 7 costs.

After looking over mcm nw I am now skeptical over mcm over corn now. But my post still is in theory something to think about.

If corn has very drastic upgrades after +10 then it might be possible for mcm to beat corn in very long run nw upgrades.

Grim Reaper September 22 2005 3:19 AM EDT

Ok mcm has no chance to compete against corn. Maybe there is some other armor or multiple items at same nw combined +3mill/used for buying the armors/ put into them that can?

TrueDevil [AAA] September 22 2005 3:31 AM EDT

I think MCM is quite useless, unless you can have like +100 MCM or something. I've tried a +29, +40 MCM on my mage but it doesn't really change anything to the fight list. When I equipped +9 corn on 1 of my enchanters, it was really really helpful and I could add 2-3 people to my fight list.

Just consider MCM as an accessory. If possible, I think MCM should increase magic too, like every +10, it adds 1 % DD spell.

Grim Reaper September 22 2005 3:44 AM EDT

Ok new dilemma:

split nw into multiple corns or just get1 where
1 corn= 1 minion on team, let's say 2 minion team with 1 having AS and the other with GA which I don't really care about it having a corn vs 4 minions where 3 use corn.

This is where things get tricky because when doing total hp gained, 4 minions + a tattoo gain the most amount of hp. I gain 68% bonus hp
Basically with less minions, this hp bonus is lower, advantage there is it is stronger vs DM. The corn though gives straight.bonus so each point in corn gives the bonus +2%

Ok so back on track here: I am wondering if 1 minion with certain nw can cause AS hp bonus to go above the 4minion +tattoo bonus if the 3 minions have their corns with same nw in total but is split.

I still need those darn numbers though which can really help figure things out.

AdminShade September 22 2005 4:27 AM EDT

see the upgrade costs on my cb2 site :)

AdminG Beee September 22 2005 4:31 AM EDT

If you're looking for upgrade costs to help you.

Community >> User maintained sites >> Shade's all about CB site.

Click on the link "Quick Reference Item Pages" and select the item you want the info for.

AdminG Beee September 22 2005 4:33 AM EDT

heh, afk breaks between starting a post and finishing it are never a good idea :/

Grim Reaper September 22 2005 6:32 AM EDT

Oh good, strat still in place even with 3 way nw splitting.

Looks like I will stick to it then.
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